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Did your high school friend also mention that his life was in danger, that someone was trying to kill him?
When people finally give in to suicidal ideation, there can be a sense of relief knowing that the end is near.
Whether that is the case here remains to be seen.
But the fact that he reported his life was in danger, and that the two guards watching him were both sound asleep seems suspicious to me.
I’m not disputing that the circumstances are more suspicious than lipstick on a shirt collar after hanging out with “the guys”. I was merely pointing out that right now we don’t know what happened and that the people in charge of keeping him safe dropped the ball bigly.
Epstein, "who was 6 feet tall, apparently killed himself by kneeling toward the floor and strangling himself with the makeshift noose, law enforcement sources said Monday."
...that's just it.....you break bones from a jolt....
Why did you only quote part of my post? The rest of my post alludes to that being the "rest of the story" necessary for that particular bone to break. I put it as a question only because I'm not a medical doctor.
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Originally Posted by GoldenPineTree
On suicide watch you're given paper sheets. He was taken off suicide watch apparently, hence he would have access to sheets.
They don't get any type of sheets on suicide watch. They get some weird looking covering to wear, and that's it. They get nothing else.
No, he was no longer on suicide watch. He was in a regular cell. He did not have paper sheets in that cell. That was my point. But I keep seeing people talking about paper sheets - they don't get paper sheets in their cells.
People commit suicide in jails and prisons frequently. They find ways. I don’t feel comfortable posting about methods though.
They aren't hanging from anything that would allow the body to dangle. There is nothing in their cells that they can suspend themselves from where the feet wouldn't be touching the floor. As I said, they can "alligator roll" themselves to asphyxiation, but they aren't hanging themselves.
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould
Epstein, "who was 6 feet tall, apparently killed himself by kneeling toward the floor and strangling himself with the makeshift noose, law enforcement sources said Monday."
Now just how the hell would he get "multiple broken bones" by kneeling into a noose made out of a sheet?
Exactly the question I was asking. You can choke yourself out, prevent yourself from breathing, but how do you get multiple broken bones from an alligator roll or leaning forward? The weight of the body doesn't drop far enough to cause that.
Again, earlier it was posted that studies showed that 6% of hangings could cause such a break, but the question I asked was: were they all actual hangings, where the body is dangling around in air? Because the weight of the body with a sudden drop could do that. Were any of those from someone just choking themselves to death? Cause that is, essentially, what they are saying that he did. So how do you get "multiple broken bones" that way?
This video has a great interview with a former prison guard and Sheriff's Deputy with 15 years of Law Enforcement experience discussing the process and procedures for putting a prisoner on suicide watch. No one seems to have done anything right in the Epstein case, deliberately or accidentally.
This video has a great interview with a former prison guard and Sheriff's Deputy with 15 years of Law Enforcement experience discussing the process and procedures for putting a prisoner on suicide watch. No one seems to have done anything right in the Epstein case, deliberately or accidentally.
They are reporting on what the AP reported, stating that prison guards falsified their log books of how often they actually checked on any of the inmates. AP is reporting it, Fox says they have to confirm. That was yesterday. Anyone heard anything further on that? (I don't have tv and rarely watch videos on news sites.)
Edit: Ok, I'm watching it now, and she brings up some very good points. If he was dead, clearly dead, why did they continue to try to give him CPR? Also, if he was dead, clearly dead, as they are saying he was, why did they remove him from the cell before any investigation took place?
Putting everything together, not taking each one at face value as true, but combining all of it together, there is something very wrong with the story we are being told about this.
So he broke his neck and strangled himself and then to seal the deal he hung himself. I'm just glad they didn't allow the prisoners to have firearms or he would have committed suicide by putting two rounds in the back of his head.
Jeffrey Epstein autopsy report shows broken neck
An autopsy of the financier Jeffrey Epstein, who died in an apparent suicide while awaiting trial on sex trafficking charges, found his neck had been broken in several places, according to two law enforcement sources.
Such injuries can occur to people who hang themselves or who are strangled.
Epstein was found dead in his jail cell in New York City on Saturday. The circumstances of the multi-millionaire's death are under investigation, and it was unclear when a report of the autopsy would be made public.
One of the two law enforcement sources familiar with the Epstein case said there was no evidence or suggestion of foul play but cautioned the investigation was at an early stage.
If the “broken bone in the neck” was the hyoid bone then he was almost certainly strangled. Hanging can break the hyoid but it takes a great deal of force and is highly unlikely to do with paper sheets.
He wasn't on a suicide watch so he didn't have paper sheets.
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