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Old Yesterday, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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Sounds like you've been riding the phony baloney pony himself.

Do you have an intelligent response to my post?
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Old Yesterday, 07:10 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, originally from SF Bay Area
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There's a saying; it's far worse to be rich and then to be poor than never being rich to begin with. The phony baloney liberals in the media want our guns. They say that if we get rid of the guns we will have a better society. Wrong boyo. That's when they will really put the squeeze on us.

In the fifties right through the eighties American society was thriving. Everyone had a good job. Unions covered 33% of our society and those companies that didn't have unions competed with the unionized companies for workers. It was great, a capitalist workers paradise. Now white America is getting a taste of third world wages. We are evolving toward third world violence. It's not the guns, it's globalization.
Actually, it was only 20% union membership in 1983, went down from there on, and itís always been mostly government workers. I as a union worker myself in the 1970s, then became management, but Iím doing far better now than any time in the past as a manager in an office with 400 non-union employees, most making over 100k (not tech).




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Old Yesterday, 07:25 PM
 
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There's a saying; it's far worse to be rich and then to be poor than never being rich to begin with. The phony baloney liberals in the media want our guns. They say that if we get rid of the guns we will have a better society. Wrong boyo.

Now white America is getting a taste of third world wages. We are evolving toward third world violence. It's not the guns, it's globalization.
1. Brown and Black American has about 1/10th on average the net worth of White Americans.....its sad and telling that you mention white america......as the victims, when they got exactly what they want (the CEOs)...who are usually White Americans, etc.

2. The Wages from people "taking it". If you (or others) didn't vote and yap against your OWN interests, then the CEOs and Pols couldn't abuse you. Example "no universal health care...we'd rather all die early and get driven bankrupt and broke".

THINK....

3. Sorry, there is no solution that involves Nationalism. The water is long over the dam.

4. None of the above has anything to do with gun laws....it does relate a little to why many white people are collecting them and shooting others. It may also relate to the false sense of security and "control" that guns falsely provide (in this case).....

5. By any measure, the long term trend of violence in the USA is down from historic levels. So, if you think things are bad now, all these times that you thought were great...wow, you should look at the facts.

Facts? Now there is a word few want to use these days.
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Old Yesterday, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Places you dream of
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Lord... life keeps evolving. Eventually we get back to where we started, and do it all over again.
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Old Yesterday, 11:12 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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There's a saying; it's far worse to be rich and then to be poor than never being rich to begin with. The phony baloney liberals in the media want our guns. They say that if we get rid of the guns we will have a better society. Wrong boyo. That's when they will really put the squeeze on us.

In the fifties right through the eighties American society was thriving. Everyone had a good job. Unions covered 33% of our society and those companies that didn't have unions competed with the unionized companies for workers. It was great, a capitalist workers paradise. Now white America is getting a taste of third world wages. We are evolving toward third world violence. It's not the guns, it's globalization.
Everyone?
In 1959, 20% of the population lived in desperate poverty and probably did not realize the Great Depression ended.

The unemployment rate in 1982 was nearly 11%.

Third world wages? Surely you jest.

The US enjoys one of the highest standards of living compared to the rest of the world.
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Old Yesterday, 11:59 PM
 
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Everyone?
In 1959, 20% of the population lived in desperate poverty and probably did not realize the Great Depression ended.

The unemployment rate in 1982 was nearly 11%.

Third world wages? Surely you jest.

The US enjoys one of the highest standards of living compared to the rest of the world.
First you need to define "standard of living" before comparing it to anything.
If 1 person can have everything he wants while 1 million has nothing - is it high standard of living? For that one person yes, for those 1mln - no. What if it 1 to 1000? Sure it's better situation, but is it already "high standard of living"? I can point you to quite a few super rich people in the poorest countries.

Then, for example, what about health care? If you can build a house off the gold, but there is no doctor around anywhere - is it high standard? Or doctor is there, but knows nothing? Or he knows something, but doesn't care a single second about you? In case you didn't know, US in #37 in health care in the world (and poor sanctioned Cuba is not far behind - it's #39).

May be education system will make it up for a high standard? According to poll of 2012, 26% of Americans think that Sun orbits the Earth. Hmm, is it really high standard?

So, what is included in that "high standard"? And what percent of population should be able to afford it to avoid comparison to third world?
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