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Old Yesterday, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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There's a saying; it's far worse to be rich and then to be poor than never being rich to begin with. The phony baloney liberals in the media want our guns. They say that if we get rid of the guns we will have a better society. Wrong boyo. That's when they will really put the squeeze on us.

In the fifties right through the eighties American society was thriving. Everyone had a good job. Unions covered 33% of our society and those companies that didn't have unions competed with the unionized companies for workers. It was great, a capitalist workers paradise. Now white America is getting a taste of third world wages. We are evolving toward third world violence. It's not the guns, it's globalization.
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Old Yesterday, 02:20 PM
 
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It is too much globalization and not enough nationalism and conservatism that's the problem. It's at the root of all the problems. But it makes the rich and elite richer and Americans comparatively poor so we have it and they defend it tooth and nail.
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Old Yesterday, 02:37 PM
 
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Post WW2 is a short red scare inspired chapter of otherwise bonafide third world history of USA. Those were abnormal times in a dog exploit lesser dogs scheme of things USA stands on. We are going back to American normal.
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Old Yesterday, 03:00 PM
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Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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Post WW2 is a short red scare inspired chapter of otherwise bonafide third world history of USA. Those were abnormal times in a dog exploit lesser dogs scheme of things USA stands on. We are going back to American normal.
This is quite right. In the 1950s America had been untouched by the war while our two biggest economic rivals, Japan and Europe, had been devastated by the war. Also our education system was far ahead of theirs, whereas now they are ahead of us (as measured by PISA scores).

I do agree with OPs point about private sector unions. In the 1950s, about 33% of private sector workers were union. Now that number is about 6%.
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Old Yesterday, 03:56 PM
 
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Would the Amish be an example of the have-less society? Same thing with the Mennonites?
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Old Yesterday, 04:14 PM
 
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Would the Amish be an example of the have-less society? Same thing with the Mennonites?
Nope. Amish are cracking under pressures of modernity. They still need money to function, the great outside devalued their traditional means of subsistance all way to nothing. As a result multiple amends must be made to keep cash flowing. Very crafty if not doublefaced compromises with old ways do not do any good to Amish communities, #1 compromise is economy of Amish scale and inevitable big time inequality, it will make your head spin learning about all the adjustements, big and small, to Amish ways. There is nothing simple about Amish life.
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Old Yesterday, 04:21 PM
 
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Post WW2 is a short red scare inspired chapter of otherwise bonafide third world history of USA. Those were abnormal times in a dog exploit lesser dogs scheme of things USA stands on. We are going back to American normal.
In McMansions and SUVs? Middle class Americans live better than in the 50s.
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Old Yesterday, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Austin
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there has to be some balance and sharing of the rewards of a company's success. CEOs at the top making $120 million a year, which are few, and workers at the bottom making $10 an hour, which are millions, make for a volatile political system.

I don't support a mandatory $15 minimum wage at all for inexperience employees, but pay experienced, long term employees what they are contributing to the success of the business.

our country's income inequality is a political powder keg that will blow if not addressed voluntarily by corporate managements.
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Old Yesterday, 04:35 PM
 
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In McMansions and SUVs? Middle class Americans live better than in the 50s.
Define better. I doubt $13/hr or even $23/hr manufacturing workers buy McMansions and new SUVs. Few surviving union workers can afford that unless they milk the system somewhere in NYC. McMansions and SUVs go hand in hand with life in human deserts American neighborhoods evolved into in the past 60 years. Now you need Prozac to go with that.
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Old Yesterday, 04:44 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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There's a saying; it's far worse to be rich and then to be poor than never being rich to begin with. The phony baloney liberals in the media want our guns. They say that if we get rid of the guns we will have a better society. Wrong boyo. That's when they will really put the squeeze on us.

In the fifties right through the eighties American society was thriving. Everyone had a good job. Unions covered 33% of our society and those companies that didn't have unions competed with the unionized companies for workers. It was great, a capitalist workers paradise. Now white America is getting a taste of third world wages. We are evolving toward third world violence. It's not the guns, it's globalization.
Sounds like you've been riding the phony baloney pony himself.
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