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Old 08-10-2019, 07:48 PM
 
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The past few years I've heard some say that Bolivia under Evo Morales has provided an example of how socialism can work compared to Venezuela. Anyway,after conducting some research here's what I found.

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This puts Bolivia in the same camp as Nordic countries, that, while praised for being examples socialist success stories, are actually using the fruits of basically capitalist economies to fund their welfare states.

https://fee.org/articles/why-bolivia...success-story/
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Old 08-10-2019, 08:09 PM
 
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This is the only way it works in any country.

Even the USSR made most of its money selling oil to capitalist countries.
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Old 08-11-2019, 04:11 PM
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The Nordic countries are NOT socialist. Google for what the Danish PM said about this. They are best termed 'social democracies.' Venezuela is in fact socialist, or at least partially so. Chavez, an avowed socialist, took power in 1998 and put the country on a gradual path towards socialism (gov't ownership of the means of production).

I don't know about Bolivia. The FEE site froze my screen before I could read much of the link.
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Old 08-11-2019, 04:12 PM
 
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Since so many countries actually have mixed economies to some degree. How do you determine if they should be classified as socialist or capitalist?
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Old 08-11-2019, 04:18 PM
 
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The past few years I've heard some say that Bolivia under Evo Morales has provided an example of how socialism can work compared to Venezuela. Anyway,after conducting some research here's what I found.
Nordic countries? Finland scrapped its socialism.

The government of Finland collapsed Friday due to the rising cost of universal health care and the prime minister’s failure to enact reforms to the system.

Prime Minister Juha Sipila and the rest of the cabinet resigned after the governing coalition failed to pass reforms in parliament to the country’s regional government and health services, the Wall Street Journal reports. Finland faces an aging population, with around 26 percent of its citizens expected to be over 65 by the year 2030, an increase of 5 percent from today.

Socialism is doomed to fail.
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Old 08-11-2019, 04:26 PM
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Since so many countries actually have mixed economies to some degree. How do you determine if they should be classified as socialist or capitalist?
I guess there's no strict line. The US has aspects of socialism such as USPS and the public schools. Both are 'government ownership of the means of production.' But no one is going to label the US as a socialist country. Maybe we can call a country 'socialist' only if it operates with a generalized vision of gov't takeover of the means of production, as in Venezuela, Cuba, etc.
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Nordic countries? Finland scrapped its socialism.

The government of Finland collapsed Friday due to the rising cost of universal health care and the prime minister’s failure to enact reforms to the system.

Prime Minister Juha Sipila and the rest of the cabinet resigned after the governing coalition failed to pass reforms in parliament to the country’s regional government and health services, the Wall Street Journal reports. Finland faces an aging population, with around 26 percent of its citizens expected to be over 65 by the year 2030, an increase of 5 percent from today.

Socialism is doomed to fail.
What BS again?
Finland has never been socialist country...And rest of text is also "Fixed" to some purpose because when cabinet resigned, there was only some days to to the elections.

It seems that there are peoples, specially on Trump cult, who can not see difference between social politics and socialism.
Better education would help to see difference?
Think difference thru this example: Social person is not same thing than socialist person....
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