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Old 08-10-2019, 09:31 PM
 
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Here's yet another story about false claims of racial victimhood, saying that black and hispanic students have been "corralled" into "underperforming schools." But how is that logically possible? Isn't it the students themselves who perform? Isn't that like saying that players for the Pittsburgh Pirates have been "corralled" into an underperforming baseball team?

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/...o-14293740.php
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Old 08-10-2019, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Japan
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There's got to be something about those school buildings, something in the bricks and mortar, or the dirt they sit on, that makes them underperform. A team of technical experts should be assembled to investigate...
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Old 08-10-2019, 09:57 PM
 
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If you had bothered to read your own link, you would know that a school in a largely minority neighborhood was deprived of funding that was provided to other mostly white schools in the same district. The students were not so much "under-performing" as were the administrators of the school district who deliberately tried to save money by throwing low income students under the bus.

For example, even the hardest working kids are going to be at a disadvantage if they attend a school with no library or no computers. If you gave the Pittsburg Pirates bats and balls that came from the discard pile at the local thrift shop while the opposing team had top of the line sporting equipment, the Pirates would "under perform" too.

Why are you okay with minority students receiving a substandard education? The dog whistle here is so loud that it hurts my ears.
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Old 08-10-2019, 10:06 PM
 
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If you had bothered to read your own link, you would know that a school in a largely minority neighborhood was deprived of funding that was provided to other mostly white schools in the same district. The students were not so much "under-performing" as were the administrators of the school district who deliberately tried to save money by throwing low income students under the bus.

For example, even the hardest working kids are going to be at a disadvantage if they attend a school with no library or no computers. If you gave the Pittsburg Pirates bats and balls that came from the discard pile at the local thrift shop while the opposing team had top of the line sporting equipment, the Pirates would "under perform" too.

Why are you okay with minority students receiving a substandard education? The dog whistle here is so loud that it hurts my ears.
Yes I read the article, and it doesn't say any of the things that you mention. Could you point out where libraries and computers are mentioned in the article? The only thing that they do mention is the absence of a "credentialed math teacher," without any explanation of what that is or why the school didn't have one.
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Old 08-10-2019, 10:07 PM
 
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If you had bothered to read your own link, you would know that a school in a largely minority neighborhood was deprived of funding that was provided to other mostly white schools in the same district. The students were not so much "under-performing" as were the administrators of the school district who deliberately tried to save money by throwing low income students under the bus.

For example, even the hardest working kids are going to be at a disadvantage if they attend a school with no library or no computers. If you gave the Pittsburg Pirates bats and balls that came from the discard pile at the local thrift shop while the opposing team had top of the line sporting equipment, the Pirates would "under perform" too.

Why are you okay with minority students receiving a substandard education? The dog whistle here is so loud that it hurts my ears.
Yes I read the article, and it doesn't say any of the things that you mention. Could you point out where libraries and computers are mentioned in the article? The only thing that they do mention is the absence of a "credentialed math teacher," without any explanation of what that is or why the school didn't have one.

Please comment on the story that I linked to, instead of making up your own.
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Old 08-10-2019, 10:18 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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A school’s performance is a reflection of student performance.

Schools with higher enrollment of Asian students tend to out perform other schools. Their performance compensates for the masses with mediocre performance.

Some cultures have historically placed a high value on education.
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Old 08-10-2019, 10:27 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Here's yet another story about false claims of racial victimhood, saying that black and hispanic students have been "corralled" into "underperforming schools." But how is that logically possible? Isn't it the students themselves who perform? Isn't that like saying that players for the Pittsburgh Pirates have been "corralled" into an underperforming baseball team?

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/...o-14293740.php
Paywall prevents me from reading beyond a few sentences.

This is a teeny- tiny school district with only 19 full time teachers.
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Old 08-10-2019, 10:31 PM
 
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Paywall prevents me from reading beyond a few sentences.

This is a teeny- tiny school district with only 19 full time teachers.
Hmmm, I wonder why I'm able to see it. Anyway, here's the part where they make their argument for racial oppression. It's weak sauce, at best.

"Investigators with the attorney general’s office found that the district had intentionally created Bayside MLK Jr. Academy in 2013 as a racially and ethnically segregated school. Then, the district “cut critical classroom programming” at Bayside while providing stable funding for Willow Creek, according to the state attorney general’s office.

Over the past six years, Bayside has consistently been understaffed, especially compared with its wealthier counterpart. The one guidance counselor at Bayside was part-time, and the counselor at Willow Creek was full-time. Bayside didn’t have a credentialed math teacher for three years."
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Old 08-10-2019, 11:01 PM
 
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Hmmm, I wonder why I'm able to see it. Anyway, here's the part where they make their argument for racial oppression. It's weak sauce, at best.

"Investigators with the attorney general’s office found that the district had intentionally created Bayside MLK Jr. Academy in 2013 as a racially and ethnically segregated school. Then, the district “cut critical classroom programming” at Bayside while providing stable funding for Willow Creek, according to the state attorney general’s office.

Over the past six years, Bayside has consistently been understaffed, especially compared with its wealthier counterpart. The one guidance counselor at Bayside was part-time, and the counselor at Willow Creek was full-time. Bayside didn’t have a credentialed math teacher for three years."
Another part that has a race card angle: "Particularly alarming were disciplinary reports from the school district: Black students were suspended for 66 times as many days as white students — the largest such disparity in the state, Becerra said."
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Old 08-10-2019, 11:16 PM
 
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"Corralled" as in segregation due to poverty. Don't worry though...hard working blacks and Hispanics closing the education gap to whites that will never reach the educational levels of Asians as a group.
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