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Old 08-26-2019, 11:13 PM
 
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Excuse me, the principle? I and my ancestors were here first long before, 1-2 million illegals and 1 million legal immigrants came in this past year and every year. They are no better and worse than the colonist and invaders centuries ago when it was mostly open wilderness. I think I have a right to complain about immigration legal or illegal.
Not sure why. You just condoned invasion (by your ancestors). I guess they have a right to invade now.

 
Old 08-26-2019, 11:27 PM
 
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Not sure why. You just condoned invasion (by your ancestors). I guess they have a right to invade now.
I'm 'condoning' anyone's invasion before about 1930 under right of conquest that was basically followed and recognized by everyone, Indians and colonist, before that point. But that is no longer recognized since. Besides, even then there was always the right to resist invasion.
 
Old 08-26-2019, 11:57 PM
 
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People are so ignorant. She responded well. This is a free country and speaking Spanish on the phone she pays for is her right. She should have also told her that the military pays extra for those who speak Spanish and other foreign languages. So her Spanish serves this country well.
You get no extra pay for this. You have to be in a billet for utilization of a language to receive extra pay.
 
Old 08-27-2019, 07:23 AM
 
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I have seen many Americans living overseas who don’t speak local language especially in Asia. A guy I met in South Korea was married to a Korean woman but could not talk to taxi driver in Korean at all, even “go right, left, straight” after living there for 7 years. I wonder if the people complaining about immigrants not speaking English could learn/speak foreign language once they had to live overseas.
Any immigrant who moves here should learn and speak English after a reasonable time. When Americans move abroad they should learn the native language likewise so where's the double standard? Just because some in either party doesn't choose to does not make it right and that's the point!
 
Old 08-27-2019, 07:27 AM
 
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I'm 'condoning' anyone's invasion before about 1930 under right of conquest that was basically followed and recognized by everyone, Indians and colonist, before that point. But that is no longer recognized since. Besides, even then there was always the right to resist invasion.
Yes, it's a silly notion that the early Europeans invaded this country as those who came before them were not native to this country/continent either. It was a different world back then. Conquest was the norm and there were no established governments, borders or immigration laws. Sick of this silly argument that somehow in these modern times with established borders, governments and immigration laws illegal immigration should not be opposed based on a long ago past.
 
Old 08-27-2019, 07:30 AM
 
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Because after English, I believe Spanish is the most-spoken first language in this country. Also, with the waves of Spanish-speaking immigrants we get so often, knowing Spanish might help give us an idea of why those Spanish-speakers came here!
So what? English is our national de facto language, not Spanish. Yeah, these waves of Spanish speaking illegal aliens (not immigrants) is a reason to learn these invader's language? I couldn't care less why they are coming here they have no legal right to. It's common knowledge why they come here anyway. We don't have to learn their language to find out. What a silly idea!
 
Old 08-27-2019, 07:32 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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I agree with the woman who said it was distasteful. Spanish speakers especially latin American in public speak a very grating dialect of Spanish very loudly and I find it repulsive and distasteful.


I'm wholly unsurprised on your stance here.


What is "distasteful" about it, in your opinion?
 
Old 08-27-2019, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Middle of the ocean
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Our airmen, may speak whatever language they want on private conversations. I don't care if it is freakin' Klingon.

(Our airmen, and anyone else for that matter)


A lot of elderly and relatives are not fluent in English (don't get uptight, a lot of them live in other countries), and you can only talk to them in whatever language they speak.

I'm cracking up because Spanish is not a big language here, Filipino, Chinese, Japanese, Hawaiian and Korean ARE spoken regularly.

A lot of Caucasians do not do well here, it is not considered a big loss.


And I'm sure no one here cares if some delicate flower was triggered by hearing another language.
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Old 08-27-2019, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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Any immigrant who moves here should learn and speak English after a reasonable time. When Americans move abroad they should learn the native language likewise so where's the double standard? Just because some in either party doesn't choose to does not make it right and that's the point!
It doesn't preclude them from speaking other languages to friends, family members or other people as the situation dictates. Again, it's a private conversation and none of your darned business!
 
Old 08-27-2019, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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Everything that happens in this country is to a degree my business. If illegal aliens, or legal Spanish speakers for that matter, are disturbing me with their loud repulsive speech 100 yards away, it becomes my business. If I don't want to hear loud, unpleasant foreign languages that's my preference.
Uh, no. You're just bugged out because of your own prejudices.

If you tried that with me I would tell you in no uncertain terms to MYOB. In English, Mandarin, Cantonese, Japanese AND Spanish.

There ain't no law that legislates anyone to act on your being triggered by hearing Spanish. So deal with it, or just go have a Diet Coke and a smile.

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