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Old 08-11-2019, 08:39 AM
 
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Glad I read the story before responding. Speaking in a foreign language while in uniform isn’t disgraceful. When conducting military operations is another matter. She was on the phone in her off time. It’s not like she was talking in Spanish during a military operation.

 
Old 08-11-2019, 08:39 AM
 
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Go look on Facebook. Most young people can't spell and use very poor English.
Even better, go to Youtube.
 
Old 08-11-2019, 08:48 AM
 
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Even better, go to Youtube.
I am 71. I spend a lot of time in my college classes trying to help 20 somethings. If they can't google it they are lost. Most of the teachers won't let them use their phone.
My own daughter has a teaching degree and can't spell.
 
Old 08-11-2019, 08:52 AM
 
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I went straight into the army out of high school. I am now taking college classes to prove to myself that I can. The majority of students cannot spell and cannot use proper English. Most Spanish speakers also speak very poor Spanish. And yes I do speak enough Spanish to know.
Please provide a link that the majority of American students can't spell or use proper English. Your initial post didn't distinguish between American students and Americans in general. Back peddling now? There are plenty of mature adults on Facebook also not just the young ones.

Our education system is floundering having to spend so much time with students who enter our schools and don't know a lick of English. Native English speakers are being marginalized by that.
 
Old 08-11-2019, 08:54 AM
 
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Please provide a link that the majority of students can't spell or use proper English. Your initial post said plain ole Americans not just students. Back peddling now?
No. Go anywhere online, including CD and look at the poor English used.
 
Old 08-11-2019, 08:58 AM
 
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Your so-called most on Facebook is not true just for starters and they certainly don't represent the majority of Americans out in mainstream. So sick of people demonizing English speaking Americans just so they can defend Spanish speakers in our country.
I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings, but....

I deal with the general public every day. I have done so for years, and I have done so in many states. A large proportion of Americans apparently failed English class. They use terms, words, and phrases incorrectly. Even here on these forums, you will find great examples of people who use English incorrectly.

It doesn’t end with the general public, either. I proofread and edit for authors of articles as a sideline. You would be amazed at how many are incapable of simple spelling as well as the proper usage of words. There is a reason that the writing world has editors.

Frankly, I don’t care if people speak Spanish. The woman in uniform was rude for having a telephone conversation in a public place, not because she was speaking Spanish.
 
Old 08-11-2019, 09:02 AM
 
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I am 71. I spend a lot of time in my college classes trying to help 20 somethings. If they can't google it they are lost. Most of the teachers won't let them use their phone.
My own daughter has a teaching degree and can't spell.
I merely mentioned Youtube because you can find plenty of videos with people who are Americans and can't(or won't) speak the English language properly.

I'm not surprised to see college students, and even college graduates who can't spell. I know a few, who are in their 30s, who don't spell properly. I remember college students who got docked a few points on their term papers because of spelling errors.
 
Old 08-11-2019, 09:03 AM
 
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I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings, but....

I deal with the general public every day. I have done so for years, and I have done so in many states. A large proportion of Americans apparently failed English class. They use terms, words, and phrases incorrectly. Even here on these forums, you will find great examples of people who use English incorrectly.

It doesn’t end with the general public, either. I proofread and edit for authors of articles as a sideline. You would be amazed at how many are incapable of simple spelling as well as the proper usage of words. There is a reason that the writing world has editors.

Frankly, I don’t care if people speak Spanish. The woman in uniform was rude for having a telephone conversation in a public place, not because she was speaking Spanish.
Some of my college teachers make numerous misspellings and use poor English. I had one class on line that I had trouble understanding what the teacher was posting. He had a PHD. in Geography.
Go on Kindle and check some of the self-published books. Most have numerous mistakes. I had a couple published on there myself, so I have read many others.
 
Old 08-11-2019, 09:05 AM
 
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I find nothing offensive about Americans speaking other language in uniform, at work, at home, wherever. If I go to Miami and try to place an order in a cafe and nobody speaks English that is offensive. But I have no problem with the soldier speaking freely as he/she wishes.
 
Old 08-11-2019, 09:05 AM
 
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No. Go anywhere online, including CD and look at the poor English used.
So you think that the majority of Americans are on Facebook and/or here on CD? Again, you might want to blame our education system for those who don't have good English skills. One of the reasons as I pointed out is the large number of non-English speaking students who have flooded our schools in the past couple of decades or so and require most of the attention of our teachers.
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