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Old 08-12-2019, 09:53 AM
 
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People speaking Spanish in public doesn't bother me. Never has. I have 99 other issues to worry about. What language a person speaks is not one of them.
It wouldn't necessarily bother me if some Americans spoke Spanish or gibberish in public per se. But if people are coming here illegally or even properly immigrated, are refusing to learn and speak English and making a racket, I want them to leave or be removed.

 
Old 08-12-2019, 09:55 AM
 
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My youngest son has two middle names, named for both of his grandfathers. I guess one of the posters thinks that is wrong.


I have a friend from Guatemala who is very fluent in English. But he speaks to my grand children in Spanish because he is teaching it to them, and also uses it with most of his friends. He also has two last names. Using their mother's maiden name is for respect to their mother.
 
Old 08-12-2019, 10:09 AM
 
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It wouldn't necessarily bother me if some Americans spoke Spanish or gibberish in public per se. But if people are coming here illegally or even properly immigrated, are refusing to learn and speak English and making a racket, I want them to leave or be removed.
Speaking Spanish and coming here illegally are two different things. This is why I didn't bring up illegals. It has nothing to do with this thread. Want to talk about illegals? Start your onw thread. This thread is neither the time or the place for it. The woman involved isn't an illegal.
 
Old 08-12-2019, 10:42 AM
 
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Speaking Spanish and coming here illegally are two different things. This is why I didn't bring up illegals. It has nothing to do with this thread. Want to talk about illegals? Start your onw thread. This thread is neither the time or the place for it. The woman involved isn't an illegal.
Not usually. And please shut up about going off topic on a side discusion. You went off topic too and I replied.
 
Old 08-12-2019, 10:44 AM
 
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Not usually. And please shut up about going off topic on a side discusion. You went off topic too and I replied.
Illegal alien refers to a status. Spanish refers to a language. Again, illegal aliens has nothing to do with the topic of this thread.
 
Old 08-12-2019, 10:46 AM
 
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Wrong again.

Latino immigrants assimilate and acquire the English language just as fast as anyone else. Just because they speak Spanish in public and among themselves doesn't mean they can't or won't speak English

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...ended-right-in

What people name their kid is their own business, and if they want to give their child a traditional name, more power to them. Indian Americans tend to name their kids traditional names. Heck, your state's former governor Bobby Jindal's given name was Piyush. So is your name Billy Joe Jim Bob Chang?
Corrected to say English...in bold
 
Old 08-12-2019, 10:48 AM
 
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If I was in uniform, I would have said this: "I'm the one serving this country, not you, so what language I speak is none of your business".
This. I bet this was not a Hawaii local woman, and as a military dependent, she probably HATES Hawaii, because you will here any number of languages spoken on a regular basis: Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Filipino, etc.

I would have just told her "your opinion doesn't matter."


I would guess that the airman was not an illegal immigrant, so I have no idea where that discussion is coming from.
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Old 08-12-2019, 11:10 AM
 
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This. I bet this was not a Hawaii local woman, and as a military dependent, she probably HATES Hawaii, because you will here any number of languages spoken on a regular basis: Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Filipino, etc.

I would have just told her "your opinion doesn't matter."


I would guess that the airman was not an illegal immigrant, so I have no idea where that discussion is coming from.
It was a side discussion answering the question of why would anyone be bothered with someone speaking Spanish publically in general.
 
Old 08-12-2019, 06:16 PM
 
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It is important important for Spanish-speaking immigrants to know a moderate amount of English (reading and speaking) after they been here for a while. If they have not gotten that much amount of English down after being here at least two years, their priorities are messed-up. Likewise, it certainly doesn't hurt for people whose native tongue is American English to become moderate speakers and writers of Spanish.
 
Old 08-12-2019, 06:21 PM
 
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Illegal alien refers to a status. Spanish refers to a language. Again, illegal aliens has nothing to do with the topic of this thread.
"Spanish" can also refer to Spain when addressing one's nationality or ethnicity.

It is important important for Spanish-speaking immigrants to know a moderate amount of English (reading and speaking) after they been here for a while. If they have not gotten that much amount of English down after being here at least two years, then I think they were wisely prioritizing. Likewise, it certainly doesn't hurt for people whose native tongue is American English to become moderate speakers and writers of Spanish. Person A (the immigrant) cannot rely on Person B (interpreter) for Person C (person whose native tongue is American English) for every situation.
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