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Old Today, 03:08 PM
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Interesting, thanks for the cite.
No problem. I suspected that Trump's support was holding strong among the framer crowd for the reasons listed in the article/survey, but this just confirms it for it. Honestly, its the similar to the reason why these voters supported Democrats for so long . . . they talked a good game, whereas Republicans apart from not talking a good game were openly in favor of "free trade" that many farmers and others saw as harmful to their way of life (rightly or wrongly). Trump just changed everything as he went from talk to actual action.
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Old Today, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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If one looks at Trump's approval ratings in the Plains states, they are curiously low for such a staunchly republican area:
https://morningconsult.com/tracking-trump-2/

Even -1 in Nebraska, and only +5 in Kansas. And of course, miserable in Iowa. I suspect some of that is due to struggling farmers.
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Old Today, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Larry, you need to give it a rest. Good grief. Stop being a DNC shill.
He could be right. If too many farmers can't pay off their loans, that is where a recession could start in a chain reaction. To put it simply, people can't pay me what I'm owed, so I can't pay people what I owe them.
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Old Today, 03:17 PM
 
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By putting US farmers out of business? Did US farmers sign up for this?
Nobody is going out of business. China needs us more than we need them.
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Old Today, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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The tRump economy is incrementally moving towards recession.

The Republicans aren't going to revolt against Trump until a recession actually officially sets in.
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Old Today, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/mee...nk-it-n1041166

There is a reason why farmers still support President Trump. Yes, there is temporary pain, but they respect a president who is actually fighting for them as opposed to all the others who merely paid them lip service.
Many rural folks do tend to vote against their best interests. But then they may think their best interest is keeping a president who is against abortion. After all, the article did say, "Rural voters tend to be more socially conservative and have long seen the Republican Party as a more comfortable home."
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Old Today, 03:21 PM
 
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China started the war years ago.
We finally have a President willing to fight back.
Trump's methodology is to blow it up to fix it.

He is no further ahead than any other President who didn't inflict the same kind of economic damage on farmers.

The future gains are all hopes and wishes and prayers and good thoughts right now.

There are no guarantees the USA will walk away with any better deal with China.

The hopes and wishes and prayers and good thoughts are not grounded in anything but blind loyalty.
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Old Today, 03:22 PM
 
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The Republicans aren't going to revolt against Trump until a recession actually officially sets in.
Republicans will not revolt against the Republican President.

It is not the Republicans that we are counting on to swing the votes.

The base on either side is strong.

They vote for their party because they vote their party.
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Old Today, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Republicans will not revolt against the Republican President.

It is not the Republicans that we are counting on to swing the votes.

The base on either side is strong.

They vote for their party because they vote their party.
In other words, only very few Republicans voted for Obama in 2008 just because there was a big recession under Bush.
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Old Today, 03:32 PM
 
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US food prices are rising, but the profits are going to the processing, marketing and distributing companies.
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