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Old 08-11-2019, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Crazy, that a family of four making $50,000 a year can get food stamps because they can deduct the child-carfe portion from their income.

If they are making $50,000 a year as a family of 4 they don't need any sort of government resources allocated to them and have more than enough to live in a middle-class lifestyle without lots of government handouts which should be reserved for seniors and American's with physical disabilities.


So glad that President Trump is updating and reforming the system so that families of 4 making $50,000 can't get loads of free food of their choice just because they have child care expenses.
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Old 08-11-2019, 10:56 AM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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Watch the Democrats now attack him for being racist, again. That's their go to attack.
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Old 08-11-2019, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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And this should help him to loss the lower middle class vote.
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Old 08-11-2019, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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https://newfoodeconomy.org/trump-adm...p-usda-perdue/

https://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty-guidelines

Crazy, that a family of four making $50,000 a year can get food stamps because they can deduct the child-carfe portion from their income.

If they are making $50,000 a year as a family of 4 they don't need any sort of government resources allocated to them and have more than enough to live in a middle-class lifestyle without lots of government handouts which should be reserved for seniors and American's with physical disabilities.


So glad that President Trump is updating and reforming the system so that families of 4 making $50,000 can't get loads of free food of their choice just because they have child care expenses.
A family of four, making $50,000/year

I assume the two are married and filing jointly, then their tax bracket is 15% (If I remember this correctly, I could be wrong here, so feel free to correct me) Their after tax income is around $3,541/month.

I think with a little bit of budget, they don't need to rely on food stamps even if they have two small children to feed.

When I was single and in my very early 20s, no matter how much I made, I always felt I didn't make enough money or I paid too much taxes, lol, then my family members taught me how to budget my money. My grandpa was a self made millionaire who lived a moderate life style.

Maybe these people just need to be taught how to budget their money. I don't mean to sound harsh, but if you manage to make $50,000 / year (well, not a good income, but somewhat decent) and you have a family of four people and you feel you need to rely on food stamp to feed your children, there is something wrong with your budgeting.
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Old 08-11-2019, 11:51 AM
 
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A family of four, making $50,000/year

I assume the two are married and filing jointly, then their tax bracket is 15% (If I remember this correctly, I could be wrong here, so feel free to correct me) Their after tax income is around $3,541/month.

I think with a little bit of budget, they don't need to rely on food stamps even if they have two small children.

When I was single and in my very early 20s, no matter how much I made, I always felt I didn't make enough money or I paid too much taxes, lol, then my family members taught me how to budget my money. My grandpa was a self made millionaire who lives a moderate life style.

Maybe these people just need to be taught how to budget their money. I don't mean to sound harsh, but if you manage to make $50,000 / year and you have a family of four people and you feel you need to rely on food stamp to feed your children, there is something wrong with your budgeting.
Perhaps the different costs of living come into play? Dollars go farther in some places. How that should be handled as far as assistance goes may be complicated, but it's not always 100% down to bad budgeting.
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Old 08-11-2019, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Perhaps the different costs of living come into play? Dollars go farther in some places. How that should be handled as far as assistance goes may be complicated, but it's not always 100% down to bad budgeting.
I don't think so. If we are talking about making $20,000/year, then the different costs of living come into play, but we are talking about $50,000 for a family of four. Even they are living in southern California, they shouldn't be depending on food stamps, period.
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Old 08-11-2019, 11:54 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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You have millionaires qualifying for food stamps.

They need to close up the loopholes.
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Old 08-11-2019, 11:56 AM
 
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Yet trump let hedge fund managers get away with paying capital gains rates on their income.

The swamp is alive and well
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Old 08-11-2019, 11:59 AM
 
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I don't think so. If we are talking about making $20,000/year, then the different costs of living come into play, but we are talking about $50,000 for a family of four. Even they are living in southern California, they shouldn't be replying on food stamps, period.
Well, as far as Southern California goes, even studio apartments can be over 1k a month. That's just rent, then add on utilities. Then there are taxes, basic expenses, possibly medical, and so on. It adds up fast. Other states, too.
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Old 08-11-2019, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Well, as far as Southern California goes, even studio apartments can be over 1k a month. That's just rent, then add on utilities. Then there are taxes, basic expenses, possibly medical, and so on. It adds up fast. Other states, too.
well, let me budget for them if they don't know how to budget themselves.

I can guarantee you that they would be okay without food stamp.
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