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Old Today, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Wouldn't you like to know?
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The labor shortage is in skilled blue collar work...electricians, plumbers, car mechanics.

This sounds reasonable and accurate.
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Old Today, 03:26 PM
 
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Illegal labor depresses wages.
Employers -- most of them American - -many of them Republican depress wages by hiring illegals....
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Old Today, 03:28 PM
 
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Here's the thing....we have jobs.
There are people who need jobs.
They work hard.
They aren't all criminals like Trump implies.
Many of them have families.
Many of them marry Americans.
Many of them already pay tax and have for years.

Give them a green card.
It benefits the employers, it helps to keep them honest, might increase wages and further adds to our economic stimulation.
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Old Today, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
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The real problem is that there's a shortage of a permanent class of low-skilled workers in the U.S.

Around the turn of the 20th century, immigrants from poorer places in Europe were filling that void. But their children assimilated, and no longer were part of a permanent low-skilled worker class by the 1950s or so. Due to racism and segregation, black people (and Hispanic and Asian people to a certain extent, although there were less of them present) could also fill the void of a permanent underclass, but that fortunately doesn't happen anymore. Poor white people from areas such as Appalachia could also fill that void.

So the only people who can be part of a permanent underclass are those who don't have any other options. That pretty much leaves felons and undocumented immigrants. Low-skilled workers of other sorts can improve their positions from working in a chicken processing plant if they so choose.
More legal immigrants would sure help. The current administration doesn't seem too interested in them.
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Old Today, 03:32 PM
 
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More legal immigrants would sure help. The current administration doesn't seem too interested in them.
Trump has painted himself into a corner.

Screaming about taking away American jobs....while job rate decreases to all new lows.

That argument is losing steam.

All of them are on welfare...and then 680 are found to be working hard in a food processing plant....oops well there goes that argument.

Finally working with Central American to help stabilize the communities so people don't need to seek asylum --ops - there it is -- another common sense solution to a problem.
Trump is being forced to approach the problem in a more practical way given the objections to his desire for his monumental wall.
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Old Today, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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1) This is a lie.
2) If there was a real shortage of low-skilled workers you'd see a huge spike in their pay, you haven't.
3) If there was a spike in pay, you would see some Americans moving back into the labor force... but few have


They mean, there is a lack of people to exploit.

Holy crap, we agree on something.
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Old Today, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Gulf Coast Texas
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The labor shortage is in skilled blue collar work...electricians, plumbers, car mechanics.
We have a winner ladies and gentlemen...
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Old Today, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Let's be honest here at how many Americans would willfully want to work at a chicken processing plant?
There is a reason why illegals are hired for those jobs.
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Old Today, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Florida
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1) This is a lie.
2) If there was a real shortage of low-skilled workers you'd see a huge spike in their pay, you haven't.
3) If there was a spike in pay, you would see some Americans moving back into the labor force... but few have


They mean, there is a lack of people to exploit.
I was going to say, this is a flat out lie. Now, maybe they want to workers who work for nothing and can rely on welfare to pick up the tab, but most immigrants that I know of from South of the border are on assistance for no more than 5 years, then get off of it when they plan on starting a business or going to school.
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Old Today, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Illegal labor depresses wages.
Not only does it depress wages, but it also cheats out the tax system. They nor their employer is paying their fair share of payroll taxes, social security, medicaid and medicare, but yet they will be expected to be able to send their kids to public schools, get free lunch and supplies for their kids and be able to sign up for welfare like WIC, without ever really paying into it. This is a system that cannon last. It's basic economics 101.
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