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Old Yesterday, 05:31 AM
 
Location: NC
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The labor shortage is in skilled blue collar work...electricians, plumbers, car mechanics.
And it's been going strong for over a decade....... My career is in training EXACTLY those people, and I can tell you without a doubt, that finding qualified, skilled labor has been a nightmare since the boomers started retiring.

As for Walmart cutting their hours: It has nothing to do with supply and demand, and everything to do with skirting labor laws. Part time workers get less benefits. That's all it's about. And it's not just WalMart. So people end up working two or three jobs, well over 40 hours, and still don't get the benefits. Yet another argument for universal healthcare, or at least the availability of it for those who want it.
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Old Yesterday, 07:22 AM
 
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If a job is filled from the ranks of the employed (common occurrence) it creates..... another job opening thus, the numbers remain the same.

As for the rest... are you claiming that companies are falsely creating job listings? Towards what purpose?

Or are you saying the government is falsifying numbers to make the economy look better than it is?

Interesting.
The numbers remain the same, and they remain orthogonal to the question of a labor shortage.


As for the rest, the government has nothing to do with it. A "job listing" means nothing and is evidence of nothing in regard to an alleged labor shortage.
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Old Yesterday, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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The numbers remain the same, and they remain orthogonal to the question of a labor shortage.


As for the rest, the government has nothing to do with it. A "job listing" means nothing and is evidence of nothing in regard to an alleged labor shortage.
Please explain why a job opening means nothing.
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Old Yesterday, 08:24 AM
 
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Again, I agree with the bold. I also firmly believe that the Federal Government should enforce the border and restrict immigration, so I'm with you on that.

Where i disagree is the regulation part. Why do we need to regulate business startups? Let the free market do the dirty work, man...lol.

If those low-paying businesses can't find enough workers - what happens? They go away. It's the government's job to keep out the hordes. It's *our* job to make do with what we have here, which includes a 100 million-plus workforce.
Because we have so many low paying businesses that's what attracts illegal aliens here and consequently the employers hire them. I stand by what I said, regulate business start ups that will require foreigners both legally and illegally to fill those jobs.

Our government (congress) is not doing its job of keeping out the hordes. Trump is trying to but is being bucked by congress.
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Old Yesterday, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Right here; Right now
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Because we have so many low paying businesses that's what attracts illegal aliens here and consequently the employers hire them. I stand by what I said, regulate business start ups that will require foreigners both legally and illegally to fill those jobs.

Our government (congress) is not doing its job of keeping out the hordes. Trump is trying to but is being bucked by congress.
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low paying businesses that's what attracts illegal aliens here
I do not think there is any scenario where that is correct.

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Trump is trying to but is being bucked by congress.
Knowing he is doing things illegally, doesn't matter a damn ...
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Old Yesterday, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Middle of the ocean
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The numbers remain the same, and they remain orthogonal to the question of a labor shortage.


As for the rest, the government has nothing to do with it. A "job listing" means nothing and is evidence of nothing in regard to an alleged labor shortage.

I never said a labor shortage was bad, I said there IS one, and the government reports data such as unemployment numbers.
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Old Yesterday, 12:57 PM
 
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I never said a labor shortage was bad, I said there IS one, and the government reports data such as unemployment numbers.
Yeah, but the devil is in the details, you know. Make some corrections and there won't be a shortage of American laborers. I've already suggested a way to do it. It's a self-inflicted labor shortage if there truly is one.
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Old Yesterday, 04:55 PM
 
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Please explain why a job opening means nothing.
A job opening is also known as "wishful thinking". The amount of wishful thinking has no economic significance.
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Old Yesterday, 05:03 PM
 
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Yeah, but the devil is in the details, you know. Make some corrections and there won't be a shortage of American laborers. I've already suggested a way to do it. It's a self-inflicted labor shortage if there truly is one.
I don't think anyone is going to be for, or should be for, restricting new start-ups. That would ruin our economy (more than it is being ruined now).

I didn't SAY the situation needs to be fixed. This is a good thing for lower level employees getting more money/benefits. I didn't comment on it being good or bad, there are pros and cons to the situation.
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Old Yesterday, 07:23 PM
 
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I don't think anyone is going to be for, or should be for, restricting new start-ups. That would ruin our economy (more than it is being ruined now).

I didn't SAY the situation needs to be fixed. This is a good thing for lower level employees getting more money/benefits. I didn't comment on it being good or bad, there are pros and cons to the situation.
Our economy is ruined now? Have you not read the news lately? Better to have fewer businesses that pay a decent wage than millions that don't. We don't need a fast food hamburger joint on every corner and hotels are never filled to capacity unless it's a holiday weekend. Those are the types of businesses that hire illegal aliens on the cheap. Then they move on to construction and landscaping jobs that used to pay a decent wage to an American.

It makes no sense to constantly keep building those type of businesses when it doesn't match the American labor pool to fill those jobs.
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