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Old Today, 04:13 PM
 
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Originally Posted by T-310 View Post
Illegal labor depresses wages.
This is why employers need to be held responsible for hiring illegal immigrants. We should invest in putting these illegal employers in jail.
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Old Today, 04:14 PM
 
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Let's be honest here at how many Americans would willfully want to work at a chicken processing plant?
There is a reason why illegals are hired for those jobs.
Those local folks living near processing plants.
Those neighborhoods around there aren's exactly the gated kind
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Old Today, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Let's be honest here at how many Americans would willfully want to work at a chicken processing plant?
There is a reason why illegals are hired for those jobs.
So you think it's OK to punish illegals even more than they are already with all the concentration camps? And what about the companies like Tyson that are actually sending chicken over to China to be processed and then sent back here to be sold to Americans? You think this is OK because a company wants to be cheap and not pay a fare wage?
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Old Today, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Florida
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This is why employers need to be held responsible for hiring illegal immigrants. We should invest in putting these illegal employers in jail.
I agree with this. Just like they want universal background checks to be able to buy a gun,. I think it's time to demand e-verify for employment. One quick swipe of the ID or drivers license in the computer/credit card checking machine and it brings up all your stats at once so everyone knows you can legally work and take out a credit card! But businesses, from both sides of the isle, refuse to pass this kind of legislation because they make too much money thanks to bribery.
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Old Today, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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The labor shortage is in skilled blue collar work...electricians, plumbers, car mechanics.
There is a school in my town that offers training for the above and more. I wonder if they think there is a shortage of students.
https://www.meridiantech.edu/programs/
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Old Today, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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I was in the midwest this summer. Fast food places are closing at 9 pm where they used to be open till the wee hours. Reason -- they can't find enough people to staff them. The shortage is real. The population is aging and retiring and outside of immigration there is an inadequate source of new labor entrants. Trump is working on it though. If he continues, his tariffs will soon bring a recession and plenty of people looking for any job.
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Old Today, 04:26 PM
 
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Illegals at processing plants go back years. And here's what they did before we adopted this open border policy.
It's not about "Americans don't want to do this work".

2001 folks.
https://www.chron.com/business/artic...rs-2071829.php
A federal grand jury in Chattanooga, in a 36-count indictment returned earlier this month and unsealed Wednesday, said the largest U.S. chicken processor tried to import illegal immigrants to cut costs at 15 plants, including one in the East Texas town of Center. The immigrants also were less likely to complain about poor working conditions, the indictment said.
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During a meeting in June 1998 with undercover agents, two Tyson managers asked for the delivery of 2,000 illegal Guatemalan workers, the indictment said. Undercover agents delivered Guatemalan aliens, smuggled across the Mexican border, in smaller groups over the ensuing months, the indictment said.
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Old Today, 04:27 PM
 
Location: southern california
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No there is not when there is we will see wages rise
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Old Today, 04:49 PM
 
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OP..that is some serious propaganda there in favor of illegal workers.

Here's the Vox article..dated March
https://www.vox.com/2019/3/18/182709...age-workers-us

Now here's the latest Labor Dept Report ..dated August 6
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/jolts.nr0.htm

The number of job openings was little changed at 7.3 million on the last business day of June, the U.S.
Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Over the month, hires and separations were little changed at
5.7 million and 5.5 million, respectively. Within separations, the quits rate was unchanged at 2.3
percent, and the layoffs and discharges rate was little changed at 1.1 percent. This release includes
estimates of the number and rate of job openings, hires, and separations for the nonfarm sector by
industry and by four geographic regions.

On the last business day of June, the job openings level was little changed at 7.3 million. The job
openings rate was 4.6 percent. The number of job openings was little changed for total private and for
government.
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Old Today, 05:00 PM
 
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The real problem is that there's a shortage of a permanent class of low-skilled workers in the U.S.

Around the turn of the 20th century, immigrants from poorer places in Europe were filling that void. But their children assimilated, and no longer were part of a permanent low-skilled worker class by the 1950s or so. Due to racism and segregation, black people (and Hispanic and Asian people to a certain extent, although there were less of them present) could also fill the void of a permanent underclass, but that fortunately doesn't happen anymore. Poor white people from areas such as Appalachia could also fill that void.

So the only people who can be part of a permanent underclass are those who don't have any other options. That pretty much leaves felons and undocumented immigrants. Low-skilled workers of other sorts can improve their positions from working in a chicken processing plant if they so choose.
Not really. If we truly had a shortage of low-skilled workers we would create or increase visas to bring in more foreign workers legally. IMO, there are far too many businesses that require low skilled workers for low wages. There are fast food restaurants on every corner now among other low skilled, low paying jobs. Let em fold and fade away, I say.
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