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Old 08-11-2019, 10:28 PM
 
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https://twitter.com/voxdotcom/status...39845834661888





1) This is a lie.
2) If there was a real shortage of low-skilled workers you'd see a huge spike in their pay, you haven't.
3) If there was a spike in pay, you would see some Americans moving back into the labor force... but few have


They mean, there is a lack of people to exploit.
You do not get it, there IS shortage of workers willing to work for stagnant low wages. That's a legitimate shortage in the eyes of corporate bosses demanding government action.
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Old 08-11-2019, 10:34 PM
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Location: North Pacific
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With a lot of babies being born everyday, we are not exactly short of labor in this country.
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America’s fertility rate continues its deep decline

"WHILE America’s job market has improved overall, employment opportunities for storks seem to be drying up. Last year, the total number of births in the United States fell to its lowest level in 30 years. The general fertility rate dropped to the lowest rate since the United States Centre for Disease Control started keeping records in 1909: to 60.3 births per 1,000 women aged between 15 and 44. The total fertility rate, meanwhile, which estimates the average number of children a woman could expect to have over her lifetime at current birth rates for each age, at 1.76 births per woman, is below the “replacement rate” for fertility. That is the level that keeps populations stable (about 2.1 children per woman). And it is a considerable drop from a decade earlier, when the rate was 2.12 births per woman." (my bold)


In about 25 years of no migration and no births ... no one will look back at Trump and understand, what happened, they will look to the new POTUS and blame them.
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Old 08-11-2019, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Originally Posted by BentBow View Post
https://twitter.com/voxdotcom/status...39845834661888





1) This is a lie.
2) If there was a real shortage of low-skilled workers you'd see a huge spike in their pay, you haven't.
3) If there was a spike in pay, you would see some Americans moving back into the labor force... but few have


They mean, there is a lack of people to exploit.
There are thousands of microeconomies in the US.

Competition for low skill workers varies all over the US.

There is tremendous competition for low skill workers in my neck of the woods.

Fast food / retail is offering $12-13/hr to start when the state Minimum Wage is $8.25 and still can fill positions.
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Old 08-11-2019, 11:04 PM
 
Location: Coastal Mid-Atlantic
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Hannity is not a reporter.
Chris Wallace is. Bret Baier is. Almost all the people in the field are.
Hannity is not a reporter, and he won't bite you. It's OK to come out now.

Hannity is a Trump flag waver. Thats about all he does. Delusional.
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Old 08-12-2019, 03:34 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I was in the midwest this summer. Fast food places are closing at 9 pm where they used to be open till the wee hours. Reason -- they can't find enough people to staff them. The shortage is real. The population is aging and retiring and outside of immigration there is an inadequate source of new labor entrants. Trump is working on it though. If he continues, his tariffs will soon bring a recession and plenty of people looking for any job.
BS! I bet you the real reason they are closing down is because of the crime, has nothing to do with labor shortages.

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Old 08-12-2019, 03:50 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I find it amusing to see liberals line up with corporate interests in the quest to keep importing low skilled, uneducated, poor illegal immigrants by the millions. If you want to know why wages for those at the lowest end of the socio-economic scale have not gone up in a generation, here is the answer. It's about time we allowed wages for the lowest skilled Americans to increase. If the job is unappealing (such as slaughterhouses, etc), then the wage rate should increase until legal workers are willing to take it. This is how a true free market economy works.
I don't know if amusing is the word I would choose, but it definitely goes to show they have no convictions in the grand scheme of things. They are pretty much nothing but puppets, repeating what their masters tell them, instead of using their brain and realize the same rich people they are told to demonize, are the ones they are helping everytime they fight for the rights of illegal immigrants. They complain about the poor conditions the illegals are in when they are caught and put into detention centers, but then look the other way when a big company is hiring illegals and forcing them to work in poor, often dangerous conditions.

Like I said, a border wall isn't going to do much, but perhaps we should all demand E-Verify for employment. It will force companies to pay up and to offer decent working conditions.
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Old 08-12-2019, 03:54 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Without immigrants, we'd be losing population.

Every woman in the United States needs to have 2.1 children to have zero population growth.

Birth rate in the United States: 1.8 children.
But wouldn't less population be better? Less stress on resources and on the environment? Class sizes can start to get smaller again, overall quality of life will be better with less people. And, if our numbers are dwindling, then ban abortion, and have natural born Americans bring up the population numbers, not immigrants who don't give a damn about this country.
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Old 08-12-2019, 05:22 AM
 
Location: Pacific Beach/San Diego
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But wouldn't less population be better? Less stress on resources and on the environment? Class sizes can start to get smaller again, overall quality of life will be better with less people. And, if our numbers are dwindling, then ban abortion, and have natural born Americans bring up the population numbers, not immigrants who don't give a damn about this country.
It's better for the environment but worse for the economy. Shrinking tax bases can cripple a country. The main thing saving the United States is that many other countries have even worse birth rates.
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Old 08-12-2019, 05:49 AM
 
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America’s fertility rate continues its deep decline

"WHILE America’s job market has improved overall, employment opportunities for storks seem to be drying up. Last year, the total number of births in the United States fell to its lowest level in 30 years. The general fertility rate dropped to the lowest rate since the United States Centre for Disease Control started keeping records in 1909: to 60.3 births per 1,000 women aged between 15 and 44. The total fertility rate, meanwhile, which estimates the average number of children a woman could expect to have over her lifetime at current birth rates for each age, at 1.76 births per woman, is below the “replacement rate” for fertility. That is the level that keeps populations stable (about 2.1 children per woman). And it is a considerable drop from a decade earlier, when the rate was 2.12 births per woman." (my bold)


In about 25 years of no migration and no births ... no one will look back at Trump and understand, what happened, they will look to the new POTUS and blame them.
By the time young adults make it through college and start their careers, pay student debt down, they are 30. If your a woman you might wait longer because your in the best career building age and having a child slows that down in our current environment. A woman having 2-3 children between 26-32 could mean big opportunity loses.
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Old 08-12-2019, 05:59 AM
 
Location: Boston
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A study, conducted by the Washington Post and Mexican newspaper Reforma, found “more than 6 in 10 Mexicans say migrants are a burden on their country because they take jobs and benefits that should belong to Mexicans.”

Additionally, more than half of the those same Mexican citizens are in favor of deporting migrants living in the country illegally.

Mexicans share our view of illegals.
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