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View Poll Results: are Trump and/or Bernie responsible for these shootings?
liberal: no neither is responsible. 3 5.66%
liberal: yes both are responsible. 0 0%
liberal: Bernie's responsible but not Trump. 1 1.89%
liberal: Trump's responsible but not Bernie. 1 1.89%
conservative: no neither is responsible. 17 32.08%
conservative: yes both are responsible. 0 0%
conservative: Bernie's responsible but not Trump. 5 9.43%
conservative: Trump's responsible but not Bernie. 0 0%
independent: no neither is responsible. 13 24.53%
independent: yes both are responsible. 3 5.66%
independent: Bernie's responsible but not Trump. 2 3.77%
independent: Trump's responsible but not Bernie. 4 7.55%
other (please explain below). 4 7.55%
Voters: 53. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-11-2019, 09:43 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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The left also fanned the flames of the Baltimore and Ferguson riots and have blood on their hands for the assassinate of 3 Baton Rouge police officers by the BLM activist.

Especially after the events in Ferguson the reporting from the liberal media was heavily biased and villainzed the police and even now, Pocahontas claims that Michael Brown was "murdered" even though he attacked the cop and black witnesses testified to that and even the Obama DOJ couldn't find wrongdoing.
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Old 08-11-2019, 09:46 PM
 
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The El Paso shooter's manifesto was all over the place. Climate change and to many people coming into the US and limited resources.

As typical for all who do such an awful thing - he was not rational.

That goes for the Bernie campaign volunteer who shot the congressman at ball practice, too.
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Old Yesterday, 06:11 AM
 
Location: Port Charlotte, FL - Pasadena, People's Republic of Maryland
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Obama didn't have rallies fomenting hatred toward others.... .
And neither does President Trump. It's the Democrats and their allies, the press, that distort everything he says and does to paint him in a negative context. “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it" seems to be on the first page of the Democrats playbook.
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Old Yesterday, 06:29 AM
 
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Neither are responsible. We as a society have to stop with this blaming ****. We are always looking to point a finger at something when things go bad.


We are a nation of over 300 million people, there will be some bad ones in that group for whatever reason. They will do bad things for no reasons but their own.


As far as the El Paso shooting, I'm not completely convinced this wasn't part of Antifa's "terror" plot that was talked about a week or so prior. Either way, I don't think Trump is responsible for this. When it comes to taking lives, that is a whole other level, for one to make that decision , they were crazy to begin with.


I will say Trump , much like whom it started with, Obama, has continued to divide people though. And if these "Red Flag" laws get passed it will be even worse. Now every anti gun person will be a threat to a legal firearms owner. Way to go Federal government, keep on dividing...
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Old Yesterday, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Boston
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Obama didn't have rallies fomenting hatred toward others. He didn't spend hours a day tweeting about it either. Obama actually worked.
shouldn't he hard to list 5 Obamacare accomplishments in 8 years then....
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Old Yesterday, 09:33 AM
 
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Of course he did. There were lots of “Hope and Change” rallies that demonized the Republicans. If I heard that twit say “this is not who we are” one more time, I might have lost it myself. You just don’t see it because you’re on the left wing loony train.
He was right. That wasn't who we were, but sadly it's who we are now, especially when you have what a president says influencing the lowest in our society.
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Old Yesterday, 10:59 AM
 
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Nobody blamed Obama for the mass shootings that occurred during his administration.

Why is Trump being blamed for it?
Because it's almost 2020 and they don't want Trump re-elected so they are digging bones out of the back yard to keep him from being re-elected.

Anything at this point to the Liberals is fair game. Even "ridiculous accusations" will be fine with the Libs.
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Old Yesterday, 11:04 AM
 
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Because it's almost 2020 and they don't want Trump re-elected so they are digging bones out of the back yard to keep him from being re-elected.

Anything at this point to the Liberals is fair game. Even "ridiculous accusations" will be fine with the Libs.
When you are at a campaign rally and the crowd says 'shoot them'....it is hard not to argue that the speaker at the time didn't rile up the crowd.
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Old Yesterday, 11:32 AM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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The buck stops with Trump. No one in the modern political history of the American presidency has made such outrageous racially charged public comments clearly designed to incite hatred and violence. A President is both a moral and political leader for all citizens. Trump’s allegiance is clearly with the White Power Nationalists and no one else.
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Old Yesterday, 01:24 PM
 
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The difference between what Sanders said and the continued firing up of Trump's base by using inflammatory words and comments is the complete opposite.

Trump's view on freedom of speech:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd6eRRjthxY

Trump the racist:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dncsM53gC70

This is from the man on the top office in the land. Do you really want your children to grow up like him? If this what America has become? We would have done far better to elect some drunk who was booted out of a bar.
Eat more hamburgers mr. president, please.
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