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View Poll Results: are Trump and/or Bernie responsible for these shootings?
liberal: no neither is responsible. 3 6.00%
liberal: yes both are responsible. 0 0%
liberal: Bernie's responsible but not Trump. 1 2.00%
liberal: Trump's responsible but not Bernie. 1 2.00%
conservative: no neither is responsible. 15 30.00%
conservative: yes both are responsible. 0 0%
conservative: Bernie's responsible but not Trump. 5 10.00%
conservative: Trump's responsible but not Bernie. 0 0%
independent: no neither is responsible. 12 24.00%
independent: yes both are responsible. 3 6.00%
independent: Bernie's responsible but not Trump. 2 4.00%
independent: Trump's responsible but not Bernie. 4 8.00%
other (please explain below). 4 8.00%
Voters: 50. You may not vote on this poll

 
 
Old Yesterday, 01:27 PM
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Obama didn't have rallies fomenting hatred toward others. He didn't spend hours a day tweeting about it either. Obama actually worked.
Obama was hardly a uniter...he was just a bit more discreet about it
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Old Yesterday, 02:07 PM
 
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Obama didn't have rallies fomenting hatred toward others. He didn't spend hours a day tweeting about it either. Obama actually worked.
Yes he worked updating his enemy's lists .
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Old Yesterday, 05:43 PM
 
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Had Bernie ever spoken out against Congressional baseball? I don't think so. Certainly not the way Trump keeps ranting against immigrants.
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Old Yesterday, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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What was the caustic rhetoric by Sanders, did he laugh off one of his supporters when he said "we can shoot them".
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Old Yesterday, 06:30 PM
 
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Had Bernie ever spoken out against Congressional baseball? I don't think so. Certainly not the way Trump keeps ranting against immigrants.
Pointing out that illegal immigration needs to be curtailed is not “ranting against immigrants”
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Old Yesterday, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Pointing out that illegal immigration needs to be curtailed is not “ranting against immigrants”
Calling them rapists and part of an invasion sure is, what did Sanders say.
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Old Yesterday, 06:57 PM
Status: "but it depends on what the definition of "is" is." (set 12 days ago)
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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The Dayton shooting has not been proven to be politically biased. El Paso there was a freak'n manifesto --lol.

You can't claim it was politically motivated if it wasn't politically motivated.

And yes the shooting on the baseball field can be attributed to the divisive nature of politics in the USA today. Bernie, Trump, everyone on every side is guilty.

Trump's divisiveness, his rhetoric attacking illegals as criminals, etc.....was most certainly declared the shooter's motive.

It isn't the media telling us this.
It isn't the Democrat candidates.

It's the shooter.

If you can find the manifesto for the Dayton shoter -- I'd suggest you get in touch with the DOJ.
As far as I know, Timothy McVeigh never had a 'manifesto,' while Ted Kacynski most definitely did. According to your standard then, Ted K was politically motivated but Tim M wasn't?

The Dayton shooter expressed his support for Bernie via Twitter. Where is it written that a mass shooter has to leave behind a 'manifesto' to be considered politically motivated?
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Old Yesterday, 07:04 PM
Status: "but it depends on what the definition of "is" is." (set 12 days ago)
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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Pretty encouraging poll results thus far. 26 of 42 (61%) agree that neither Trump nor Bernie is responsible for the shootings.

I'm not seeing a single compelling argument from those who voted either 'Trump not Bernie' or 'Bernie not Trump.'
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Old Yesterday, 07:05 PM
Status: "but it depends on what the definition of "is" is." (set 12 days ago)
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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Calling them rapists and part of an invasion sure is, what did Sanders say.
See the quote in post #1. Is not accusing Trump of mass slaughter somewhat inflammatory and inciting?
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Old Yesterday, 07:12 PM
 
Location: the Sticks
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Obama didn't have rallies fomenting hatred toward others. He didn't spend hours a day tweeting about it either. Obama actually worked.
Oh. We didn't have rallies where he used class warfare? What about all those peaceful riots on his watch? Did those business owners torch their own property just to make Obama look bad?
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