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Old Today, 10:57 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Most need a little help to get started. Be careful what you wish for. It must be in water but America tends to destroy bodie and minds, environment is that toxic. Without continious supply of eager unsuspecting immigrants of all kinds this country is a toast.
LOL. We are the richest country in the world. The only toxic danger in this country is the liberalism we are exporting to the rest of the world. Seems like so far only western Europe has bought into it...to their own detriment.

Most countries like Japan, Australia, for example, have very strict immigration rules and even require you to have either a job or a large amount of wealth for them to even consider letting you immigrate into their country. We are the biggest suckers out there.
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Old Today, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Rutherfordton,NC
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....articles say that studies show....over 60% of immigrant households are on some form...usually more than one...of welfare...and consume 33% more cash welfare than American citizen households
..while only about 35% of native born American households are on welfare

...says will save taxpayers about $60 billion a year

Before anyone screams Breitbart....there's links in the articles...following one link I found out that the highest cost per taxpayer was Minnesota....Omar's district

...said the study was by the National Academy of Science...and they got their numbers from the Census Bureau

lots of links to many articles, etc

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...public-charge/
Sounds good ! Where’s my check??
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Old Today, 11:09 AM
 
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I'm happy Trump is balancing the budget and paying down the debt....if I add all the "claimed" savings you guys have pointed out, we're in a Surplus situation!

So, where is the money? Opps!
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Old Today, 11:15 AM
 
Location: The 719
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LOL. We are the richest country in the world. The only toxic danger in this country is the liberalism we are exporting to the rest of the world. Seems like so far only western Europe has bought into it...to their own detriment.

Most countries like Japan, Australia, for example, have very strict immigration rules and even require you to have either a job or a large amount of wealth for them to even consider letting you immigrate into their country. We are the biggest suckers out there.
This.

As usual, Trump is right again.

Tell me again how Trump is a liberal in disguise.

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Old Today, 11:29 AM
 
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LOL. We are the richest country in the world. The only toxic danger in this country is the liberalism we are exporting to the rest of the world. Seems like so far only western Europe has bought into it...to their own detriment.

Most countries like Japan, Australia, for example, have very strict immigration rules and even require you to have either a job or a large amount of wealth for them to even consider letting you immigrate into their country. We are the biggest suckers out there.
I do not think mass drug addiction, depression and other debilitating mental and psysical conditions have anything to do with liberalism, significant % of native borns is blubbering mess who must be provided for, it certainly has something to do with being the richest banana republic in the world. Without upper class liberals feeling the guilt this country would be text book social darwinian paradise, psychopathy and lack of empathy is as American as an apple pie used to be. Significant % of children/grandchildren of new immigrants will become blubbering mess themselves. America is like a hungry beast that must be fed with human life.

The most effective anti immigrant tool would be substituting Hollywood fantasy products with movies realistically portraying an average American life, it would give second thoughts to any would be immigrant, especially to the folks you try to keep away unless they are starving or something.
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Old Today, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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National Academy of Science.....says it's $60 billion a year...for whatever reason...they didn't fabricate the number

(2017)
The Economic and Fiscal Consequences of Immigration

https://d279m997dpfwgl.cloudfront.ne...ull-report.pdf
They are not getting rid of welfare or benefits for immigrants legal and otherwise for God's sake! There is only a small number of LEGAL immigrants who are affected and there is no retroactive restriction and there are many exemptions such as asylum seekers, refugees, pregnant women and children. So the guess is how many LEGAL immigrants not exempted will forego various forms of welfare to qualify for a green card. Again, the best guess is it will amount to less than $3 billion per year - not a small sum but hardly a blip in the annual budget.
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Old Today, 11:42 AM
 
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National Academy of Science.....says it's $60 billion a year...for whatever reason...they didn't fabricate the number

(2017)
The Economic and Fiscal Consequences of Immigration

https://d279m997dpfwgl.cloudfront.ne...ull-report.pdf
It won't save 60 billion a year.

Right now we spend 60 billion a year on 'legal' residents who are immigrant families -- including families with American born folks in those families. Those people won't lose their eligibility.

The changes are now that some folks on welfare will be denied green card status....BUT green card eligibility has always included some kind of requirement for financial independence.
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Old Today, 12:04 PM
 
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It's an unknown of course, but the gov itself predicts an annual savings of $2.6 billion not 60 billion from immigrants who drop out of benefit programs to qualify for the green card. Remember too, that this only applies to legal immigrants not the millions who are here illegally. It does not apply at all to refugees and asylum seekers.
It applies to ANYONE who is not a citizen or resident alien starting Oct 1.
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Old Today, 12:04 PM
 
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It won't save 60 billion a year.
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...the 39 contributing authors for that study for the National Academy of Science....says it will

They are also taking into consideration medical, school, infrastructure, depressed wages and the taxes not generated from that....etc etc....everything connected to it
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Old Today, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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It applies to ANYONE who is not a citizen or resident alien starting Oct 1.
Illegals don't get welfare or green cards. Their American born kids can get certain benefits, and this law would not apply to those whether the parents are legal or not. You really should read some credible news sources to get factual information. That might a problem though because as I said on the other thread, both left and right will make this into a much bigger deal than it is for their respective purposes.
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