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Old 08-12-2019, 05:19 PM
 
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Allowing in only immigrants we need and won't be a burden to our society does not make one anti-"immigrant"!

I see nothing wrong with Trump's actions. Sometimes he doesn't express himself well but that's a minor thing to me.
Define what we need.

So the folks receiving these federal aid all are legal residents working in jobs that make them qualified to receive that federal aid.

Here's the things -- all you smart people will catch on at some point ---- these legal residents are working jobs where employers choose not to pay them enough. So these legal residents qualify for federal aid.

But all of you deem the evil legal resident as the problem?

Wow -- you are so deep in the weeds now you don't even know what you are supporting or fighting.

So if all those legal residents doing those jobs Americans wouldn't take aren't given legal status, shipped back, deported....all of a sudden employers will jump in and pay more and Americans will have jobs and all those people will be knocked off of welfare.

That's an interesting bed time story.
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Old 08-12-2019, 05:20 PM
 
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Every, and I repeat EVERY, parent who has been brought into this country as part of family reunification is receiving cash assistance and is on Medicaid. I know dozens. They may be living in million dollar homes of their kids but have nothing in their names. They are "dirt poor" and they qualify. Nobody is going after their financial sponsors and frankly, I don't expect that to change.
That's what I figured.
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Old 08-12-2019, 05:23 PM
 
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Every, and I repeat EVERY, parent who has been brought into this country as part of family reunification is receiving cash assistance and is on Medicaid. I know dozens. They may be living in million dollar homes of their kids but have nothing in their names. They are "dirt poor" and they qualify. Nobody is going after their financial sponsors and frankly, I don't expect that to change.
So you are starting the campaign to have Melania's parents deported.

Go fot it - -let's see where this goes.
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Old 08-12-2019, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Somewhere between the Americas and Western Europe
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Aside from the fake news putting a negative spin on it like always, mention it makes Trump look better to many people.





Enforcement of these laws IS a good thing.




That's the funny thing --- we already HAVE some pretty fair immigration laws. They just aren't enforced.
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Old 08-12-2019, 05:39 PM
 
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Allowing in only immigrants we need and won't be a burden to our society does not make one anti-"immigrant"!

I see nothing wrong with Trump's actions. Sometimes he doesn't express himself well but that's a minor thing to me.
Being a compulsive liar about Major Issues (that means telling lies to people who know he’s lying, looking them in the eye and never accepting responsibility) is not a minor thing. It’s a basic basic personality flaw!

(Example - Mexico will pay for the wall...)

Anyway, as I said, the fundamental immigration policy is be decided by congress. Sooner or later Trump will vanish and other potus will step in. You can’t rattle these basic US policies every other day.
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Old 08-12-2019, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Coastal Mid-Atlantic
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He wants them out. just not the ones that work for him.
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Old 08-12-2019, 05:40 PM
 
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As the immigration guy himself said -- not a new rule.

But a whole lot of media coverage....

WOW look at Trump making sure that people who aren't making enough money don't get a green card.

Maybe the federal govt. should pass a law that no work visas will be issued for any job that doesn't pay enough to make sure that the 'immigrant' needs federal aid.
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Old 08-12-2019, 05:41 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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They make it look like this is a brand new rule the evil Trump has conjured up. This is not a new rule. It has always been on the books.

"The “Affidavit of Support” is a signed document to accept financial responsibility for a spouse who is seeking a green card. It is also known as U.S. Immigration Form I-864."

https://www.boundless.com/immigratio...vit-of-support

The new trick is to headline old rules that have never been enforced as new.
Well that and to start to actually enforce them.
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Old 08-12-2019, 06:08 PM
 
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Being a compulsive liar about Major Issues (that means telling lies to people who know he’s lying, looking them in the eye and never accepting responsibility) is not a minor thing. It’s a basic basic personality flaw!

(Example - Mexico will pay for the wall...)

Anyway, as I said, the fundamental immigration policy is be decided by congress. Sooner or later Trump will vanish and other potus will step in. You can’t rattle these basic US policies every other day.
You're mere biased opinion. I'm not impressed. How many times do I have to repeat that Mexico never said they'd write a check for the wall????? I also posted a link to his plan to make them pay for it numerous times. How much longer are you and yours going to repeat this stupid nonsense? Polly wanna cracker? Squawk, squawk. Try a new line. This one's getting old.

Basic U.S. policies already dictate that immigrants have to be able to prove that they will support themselves and/or have a sponsor that will. It's just not being enforced and that is what Trump is trying to fix. Why would you want deadbeat immigrants here when we already have enough of our own deadbeats sucking us dry?
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Old 08-12-2019, 07:11 PM
 
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No -- it is obvious all those -- this is the third thread -- boasting like Trump is controlling welfare payments to illegals -- suggests some of your kind don't have a freak'n clue.

Even the head guy said in the press conference...THIS IS NOT A NEW RULE.

You've been played people.
Nope.

But you are right. It has been on the books. And ignored by liberals.
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