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View Poll Results: Should the Democratic Party change their name to the Socialist Party?
Yes 70 66.67%
No 35 33.33%
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Old Today, 02:50 PM
 
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Many Democrats are call themselves Socialists, so is it time they change the name of their party?

Not many, only a select few!
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Old Today, 02:54 PM
 
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They're getting pretty close to being Democrat-Socialists. Free Medicare for all! Guaranteed income! Guaranteed jobs! Subsidized housing! Free college! Universal pre-school! Wow, and all for free. I don't know how that doesn't qualify for Socialism.

Social-Democratic Party might be a fair moniker. Obviously a Democrat from 1950 wouldn't recognize the current party.

Actually state-ownership of means of production (at least the non-Chinese part) might be a bit of a stretch. I think that the main thrust is to allow companies to exist, skim off enough to leave them on life support, hand out the profits to favored groups. Mafia-Democratic perhaps?
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Social-Democratic Party might be a fair moniker. Obviously a Democrat from 1950 wouldn't recognize the current party.

Actually state-ownership of means of production (at least the non-Chinese part) might be a bit of a stretch. I think that the main thrust is to allow companies to exist, skim off enough to leave them on life support, hand out the profits to favored groups. Mafia-Democratic perhaps?
The Democrats are not "democratic" at all. So, strike that part. What a joke. The "Democrats". Give me a break.
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Old Today, 03:02 PM
 
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The Democrats are not "democratic" at all. So, strike that part. What a joke. The "Democrats". Give me a break.

I genuinely think that they are democratic. The problem is that historically, you get one-man, one-vote, one-time. After that, the nomenklatura runs the show.
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I don't think Secretary Albright needs your advice. Perhaps you should read her book before declaring her incorrect and dismissing her warning about the global rise of forces we are currently witnessing.
appeal to authority--logical fallacy. I will read her book, so thank you for the recommendation. However, I have read Mussolini, who, again, invented the ideology of fascism. So to say that he gets it wrong (which Albright appears to be doing by implication) is like saying that Jesus and Paul got Christianity wrong.

Mussolini's definition of fascism had to do with private ownership of the means of production, but heavy state regulation thereof. Mussolini formed a "National Council of Corporations" which was to micro-manage the Italian economy. BTW that was closely copied by FDR in the "National Recovery Act" of 1933. FDR sent his top econ aide Rex Tugwell to Italy to study. He reported back to FDR about the amazing wonders of fascism.

Incidentally, fascism had nothing to do with anti-Semitism or racism. There were Italian Jews highly placed in Mussolini's ranks. It did have to do with nationalism, but then so did the US Declaration of Independence.
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I genuinely think that they are democratic. The problem is that historically, you get one-man, one-vote, one-time. After that, the nomenklatura runs the show.
The "Democrats" are supportive of democracy, as long as you vote for their candidates. Otherwise, not so much.

Their incredible efforts to de-legitimize the last two duly elected Republican Presidents has been a demonstration of how "democratic" they actually are.

Not very.
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