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Old 08-12-2019, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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So I ask again, what is the point of the insurance and if people have it how will "the city stop paying for" the gun violence as the mayor has described? Long on rhetoric and short on details.
In fairness, long on rhetoric and short on details is pretty standard for Democrats.
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Old 08-12-2019, 08:42 PM
 
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Please note that insurance policies do not cover intentional acts.

Again, if I lived out there I'd be insulted by this proposal.

It's right up there with a magic prayer bubble to deflect hurricanes as an actual policy proposal.
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Old 08-12-2019, 08:45 PM
 
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So I ask again, what is the point of the insurance and if people have it how will "the city stop paying for" the gun violence as the mayor has described? Long on rhetoric and short on details.
Mayor McMoron needs to put a tax on gang members that commit most of the violence. Perhaps they can pay per crime? What about having them collect tax on drug sales and then turn it in quarterly at city hall?
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Old 08-12-2019, 08:48 PM
 
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How does he plan to get criminals to comply?
Well, they can pay that fee when they turn in the taxes they collect when selling illegal drugs of course.
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Old 08-12-2019, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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It is a feel-good worthless proposal. Just for votes.
I don't think it is worthless. I think it's something...it's a start, and it will force those who carry to take financial responsibility of the deadly weapon they carry around.

So what if criminals don't get the insurance? Many people are still wounded and killed by legal gun owners every year. Hell, if car insurance is mandatory, why shouldn't liability insurance for guns be?
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Old 08-12-2019, 09:03 PM
 
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I don't think it is worthless. I think it's something...it's a start, and it will force those who carry to take financial responsibility of the deadly weapon they carry around.

So what if criminals don't get the insurance? Many people are still wounded and killed by legal gun owners every year. Hell, if car insurance is mandatory, why shouldn't liability insurance for guns be?
You mean the people who would never use a firearm to commit a crime? They are the ones who should pay?

"Many people are wounded and killed by legal gun owners" - are you talking about accidental discharges? If they are accidents they pay the consequences. If they are criminal acts they also pay the consequences.

Who is going to underwrite such an insurance?
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Old 08-12-2019, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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I don't think it is worthless. I think it's something...it's a start, and it will force those who carry to take financial responsibility of the deadly weapon they carry around.

So what if criminals don't get the insurance? Many people are still wounded and killed by legal gun owners every year. Hell, if car insurance is mandatory, why shouldn't liability insurance for guns be?
Here in the U.S. we don't license or insure our Constitutional rights.
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Old 08-12-2019, 09:08 PM
 
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Mayor McMoron needs to put a tax on gang members that commit most of the violence. Perhaps they can pay per crime? What about having them collect tax on drug sales and then turn it in quarterly at city hall?
It's completely stupid. People want to take money from others who own things they don't like. It doesn't matter that it won't stop a damn thing.
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Old 08-12-2019, 09:08 PM
 
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I don't think it is worthless. I think it's something...it's a start, and it will force those who carry to take financial responsibility of the deadly weapon they carry around.

So what if criminals don't get the insurance? Many people are still wounded and killed by legal gun owners every year. Hell, if car insurance is mandatory, why shouldn't liability insurance for guns be?
But i thought this was all about mass shootings ? Guess not, because this wouldn't have stopped them.
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Old 08-12-2019, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I don't think it is worthless. I think it's something...it's a start, and it will force those who carry to take financial responsibility of the deadly weapon they carry around.

So what if criminals don't get the insurance? Many people are still wounded and killed by legal gun owners every year. Hell, if car insurance is mandatory, why shouldn't liability insurance for guns be?
Makes sense.
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