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Old 08-13-2019, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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I love seeing the progress updates on this. Over 400 miles projected to be completed by the end of his first term, not bad without any help from congress.

400 miles my butt! Please show proof of 400 miles of a new wall projected. It took 2 1/2 years just to get 14 miles done. LOL.
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Old 08-13-2019, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Little Rock, AR
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400 miles my butt! Please show proof of 400 miles of a new wall projected. It took 2 1/2 years just to get 14 miles done. LOL.
I know you don’t want to hear this, but $4.5 billion in funding is secure, contracts are going out now. An additional $3.5 billion will be approved by the defense secretary, making up a total of $8 billion in funding. At $20 million a mile that is enough money for 400 miles. You should see some of the scrap metal walls they are replacing, they were useless.

63 miles are going up in Arizona and 46 miles in New Mexico from the $2.5 billion approved by the Supreme Court.

If he wins re-election that 400 will go upwards to 800 or more miles and greatly help to secure the border.
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Old 08-13-2019, 11:22 AM
 
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Well there's the worry about hearing of another mass shooting from one of our own..
So what's your point? These lunatics don't make up the majority of Americans. We are discussing the wall here and those coming through our southern border illegally are doing much more harm to Americans in so many ways than our own home grown are.
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Old 08-13-2019, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Rutherfordton,NC
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The wall goes up and they go UNDER the wall.. good work.
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Old 08-13-2019, 11:52 AM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2CH1GTYURE

This actually is making me emotional, and in a good way. For far too long, we've had politicians talk a good talk, to include both Republicans and Democrats, who voted to build (but not fund) a wall during the administration of GWB. Of course, since then, Democrats had a change of heart (I wonder why) and now oppose all efforts to build a wall.

Its is amazing to have a president seeing through with his campaign promises. To date, over $1 billion has been awarded in contracts to build the wall along our southern border. At an estimated $20 million a mile, the overall allocation of funds (we're talking about $7 billion-ish I believe), the current year's allocation to the border wall will make a serious dent. I'm waiting to see what cuts DoD and other departments will make to their budget to support the wall efforts in the next fiscal year!

For all the naysayers who say the wall is useless, its already proven effective where it is built. And just look to Israel.


Your putting way to many eggs in that basket, you might want to hold the tears of joy. There are some questions left to answer that remain an issue for the wall.

1)Is there a budget to maintain 1000's of mile of NEW border wall that cost 20 million a mile?
2) Does that funding go through the executive only? Because that can change every 4 years
3) Is Mexico patrolling the border from their side to prevent damage to the wall? They have power tools and vehicles in Mexico too
4) This helps for the minority of illegal aliens, overstaying VISA's is by far a larger issue but they fly in so wall doesn't matter.

Just some thoughts.

I'm not sold on the solution of a wall for thousands of miles stopping determined people from getting through. I'm not sold on the idea that the wall will be maintained in the future. A house built on executive orders is only effective for that executive's term in office, so MAX 8 years in the USA. Not a very long time for a permanent structure that will need regular upkeep and patrolling. I have seen no push in congress from either party to fully fund the wall and upkeep from either party, Mitch McConnell wants no part it seems.

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Old 08-13-2019, 12:28 PM
 
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I'm not sold on the idea that the wall will be maintained in the future. A house built on executive orders is only effective for that executive's term in office, so MAX 8 years in the USA. Not a very long time for a permanent structure that will need regular upkeep and patrolling. .
The We Build the Wall section will last 75 yrs and is better built than the Fed's version of 25 years. It would be expensive to tear it down.

How much maintenance do you think is required of a stainless steel bollard barrier? It isn't a white wooden picket fence that needs painting every few years.

Which is cheaper -- maintaining stationary steel barriers or paying for millions of illegals?
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Old 08-13-2019, 12:31 PM
 
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Come on, people! Don't you know any daredevil teenage boys who would skateboard down the concrete road and have it go viral?
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Old 08-13-2019, 12:45 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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The We Build the Wall section will last 75 yrs and is better built than the Fed's version of 25 years. It would be expensive to tear it down.

How much maintenance do you think is required of a stainless steel bollard barrier? It isn't a white wooden picket fence that needs painting every few years.

Which is cheaper -- maintaining stationary steel barriers or paying for millions of illegals?
The Palestinians stole part of the famous Israeli wall for scrap to build weapons. Our wall will collapse and be carted away for scrap and just from the lack of maintenance in a few years. When the tumbleweeds and sand piles up they will walk over the wall, or what's left of it. Simply an ineffective and unworkable boondoggle. The money would be better spent cleaning up the mess in Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala so people would not be fleeing.
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Old 08-13-2019, 12:45 PM
Status: "Proud American, Always and Forever" (set 23 days ago)
 
Location: DMV Area/NYC/Honolulu
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Over-bloated? Wow, first time I ever heard a Trump supporter say that. And here Republicans are always asking for more and more money for the military. So next time Trump asks for more money for the military, I expect you to denounce it due the military already being bloated!

Oh and by the way, the funds he pulled already effected military readiness but then again, we all know Trump supporters don't care.
Over-bloated as in wasteful, unnecessary spending, which is evident by the reallocation of $2.5 billion without hurting mission readiness. If all of the money allocated to the military was being put to use as intended, then there wouldn't be an issue. But billions go to waste every year, and we have a broken federal contracts system, which needlessly bloats the budget even more.

Still, while I believe in a strong defense, that is not to say that I also generally don't believe that the military budget needs to be cut all the same. We'll achieve some of these cuts once POTUS begins to pull us out of Afghanistan as he announced the other day.

And do you care to point out how military readiness was affected by the funds reallocation? Or is this just more leftist propaganda, no supported by the facts on the ground?
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Old 08-13-2019, 12:49 PM
Status: "Proud American, Always and Forever" (set 23 days ago)
 
Location: DMV Area/NYC/Honolulu
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The wall goes up and they go UNDER the wall.. good work.
Um, unlike the ineffective trash currently on the border, this wall has anti dig features: https://www.kpbs.org/news/2018/sep/2...totypes-didnt/

Newsflash, but we have a president who actually wants to get it right and isn't going to take that scrap metal crap put up under the Obama administration
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