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Old Today, 06:03 AM
 
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This is more about people whining than anything else. I don't see anything wrong with taking things on a case by case basis. Some species that are listed as protected don't even need it anymore.


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Currently there is no significant difference in protections for non-marine wildlife listed as “threatened” versus those designated as “endangered.” Those species listed as threatened would no longer be automatically protected. Instead conservation requirements will be decided on a “case by case” basis. This is the approach already used by the National Marine Fisheries Services, which administers the ESA for marine mammals and fish.

Species already listed as threatened will continue to be protected under the old rules. In the Pacific Northwest, these include the Oregon silverspot butterfly and spotted frog, Columbian white-tailed deer, northern spotted owl and marbled murrelet.
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Old Today, 06:06 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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This is more about people whining than anything else. I don't see anything wrong with taking things on a case by case basis. Some species that are listed as protected don't even need it anymore.
exactly


It avoids blanket protection based simply on some leaf lickers proposal to close down entire areas to any human activity.
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Old Today, 06:07 AM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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Looks like trump is relaxing rules and regulations on the endangered species list making current protected animals not so protected =https://www.opb.org/news/article/tru...ildlife-rules/
Its about time! The looney-tunes have overreached since its original intent. Sanity may return!
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Old Today, 06:15 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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This is more about people whining than anything else. I don't see anything wrong with taking things on a case by case basis. Some species that are listed as protected don't even need it anymore.
There is already a process for removing species from the list who are no longer endangered, 47 have been removed. So what is the point of this action that allows them to ignore climate change and put a cost on each species.
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Old Today, 06:48 AM
 
Location: Jewel Lake (Sagle) Idaho
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After reading up on this-as usual the OPs title is a lie.... Nothing in the changes in regulations "kills" the ESA-it simply brings some common sense to the law-and avoids some of the abuses of those using the act to punish landowners and the public. More importantly, it looks at the financial impact of ESA designation-something LONG overdue.
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Old Today, 06:50 AM
 
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Not starting account with the New York slime.
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Old Today, 06:54 AM
 
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This is more about people whining than anything else. I don't see anything wrong with taking things on a case by case basis. Some species that are listed as protected don't even need it anymore.
Agree. Reducing rules and regulations that are unnecessary.
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Old Today, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Cumberland Co., TN
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I'd love to hear what Trump voters have to say about this one

Can any of them back up Trump and explain why easing endangered species laws is a GOOD idea???
Ok.
From the article what is being done is distinguishing between endangered status and threatened status. As it stands non marine species are given blanket protections as if they were threatened species. Sounds reasonable to me, are they threatened or are they endangered? Those are two separate classifications.
The second change is redefining critical habitat from a historical range to present range. Again seems reasonable.


Nothing in there even remotely suggest that the administration plans to kill the endangered species act.

What is it you find a bad idea?
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Old Today, 06:58 AM
 
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Ok.
From the article what is being done is distinguishing between endangered status and threatened status. As it stands non marine species are given blanket protections as if they were threatened species. Sounds reasonable to me, are they threatened or are they endangered? Those are two separate classifications.
The second change is redefining critical habitat from a historical range to present range. Again seems reasonable.


Nothing in there even remotely suggest that the administration plans to kill the endangered species act.

What is it you find a bad idea?
Sounds fine to me.

Keep in mind that anything Trump does will cause liberals to scream in outrage no matter how logical it may be.
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Old Today, 07:15 AM
 
Location: Cumberland Co., TN
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Keep in mind that anything Trump does will cause liberals to scream in outrage no matter how logical it may be.
Yes that seems so. I find in confusing that they also believe Trump comes up with this personally because he is just callous and unsympathetic and hates everything.

I guess no one is old enough to remember the endangered snail darter controversy.
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