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Old Today, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Originally Posted by KenFresno View Post
At the end of the day what an economic system really does is decide where the surplus goes. In a capitalist system the surplus gets funneled in the private hands of a small group of individuals who then use the surplus to ensure they remain in economic and political power.

That's not what Capitalism does, but it is what you allow.


When you muster up the courage, let me know:

AMENDMENT XXVIII

Section 1

No person or organization shall contribute money, or goods or services in kind, or tangible property to a campaign or candidate for political office, or to a ballot issue or ballot measure who shall not be legally eligible to vote for the candidate or to vote for the ballot issue or ballot measure.

Section 2

Political parties shall disburse monies only within the State in which the campaign funds were raised, donated or accumulated, and shall not transfer monies to other States.

Section 3

Any person who knowingly or willfully commits a violation of this Amendment shall be imprisoned for not less than 10 years and fined not less than 300 percent of the amount of money, goods or services or tangible property transferred or conferred upon the candidate, campaign or ballot measure.

Section 4

The Congress and the several States shall have concurrent power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
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Old Today, 03:02 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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Originally Posted by Mircea View Post
That's not what Capitalism does, but it is what you allow.

Individuals have no power in our current system, you and I both know this

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AMENDMENT XXVIII

Section 1

No person or organization shall contribute money, or goods or services in kind, or tangible property to a campaign or candidate for political office, or to a ballot issue or ballot measure who shall not be legally eligible to vote for the candidate or to vote for the ballot issue or ballot measure.

Section 2

Political parties shall disburse monies only within the State in which the campaign funds were raised, donated or accumulated, and shall not transfer monies to other States.

Section 3

Any person who knowingly or willfully commits a violation of this Amendment shall be imprisoned for not less than 10 years and fined not less than 300 percent of the amount of money, goods or services or tangible property transferred or conferred upon the candidate, campaign or ballot measure.

Section 4

The Congress and the several States shall have concurrent power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
Powerful corporations and individuals easy bypass these rules. While No person or organization shall contribute money or goods directly to a campaign there is a massive loop hole to this. Its called speaking fees. An organization who wishes to get what it wants from a politician hires said politician to speak at a dinner or conference. They pay the politician an absurd sum of money to give a short speech.

For example Hilary Clinton was paid 250k for each speech she would give for various corporations. Goldman Sachs for example have put somewhere close to 8 million dollars into the pockets of Hilary Clinton. You think Mrs Clinton is going to persue any legislation against Goldman Sachs when she is making a killing giving speeches at their dinners? Hell no.

The system is bought and paid for by the ultra rich who control everything that goes on in this country. To think otherwise is to live in denial.
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Old Today, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Here.
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It makes no sense that the phrase “without regard to economic impact” was put in in the first place. Either a species is nearing extinction or it is not. Whether declaring a species near extinction will have an economic impact or not shouldn’t matter.
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Old Today, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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So is uncontrolled communism...
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