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Old 08-14-2019, 08:23 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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This is a question I am curious about. Do most people live in a place where others agree with them politically? On the basis of either voter registration by political party and/or political party electoral dominance, do you share the political values of people in your town, county, and state? Does it impact how much or little you like where you live?

I'll start off. My username was created a few years back when I thought I would live in New Jersey forever, now I am not sure as I am trying to secure better employment. This is related, as I blame socialism for the lack of a good job market in New Jersey. New Jersey has almost 1 million more registered Democrats than Republicans, no Republican presidential candidate has carried our state since 1988, no Republican has been elected to the U.S. Senate from our state since 1972, and all but one of our Congressional districts and a majority of our State Legislature is controlled by Democrats. We currently have a Democratic Governor, but do elect Republicans every so often to that office. I spent most of my life in a solidly Republican county and community, though recently moved to a county that is trending blue though has historically been Republican.

I don't think politics impacts my appreciation and love for New Jersey's culture, food, history, charming towns, and beautiful suburban and rural landscape, but I do disagree with the misguided priorities of Democrats who would rather spend money on building a wind farm off our coast than improving our roads. I think the fact that my home county is solidly Republican made me love it more, but that's because at the county level taxes were kept lower than in neighboring Democratic counties and the county features great parks and county roads that are well-maintained by New Jersey standards. I was never a big fan of my hometown but that had more to do with the local social scene than politics.

I'm a speck of red in a lake of blue, in the land of red. Most cities are like that.
But, with that said, I know the neighbor to the left of me and the neighbor across the street are, maybe more conservative than I.
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Old 08-14-2019, 08:23 AM
 
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I have two black neighbors to the south and the neighbor to the north has a sticker on his car that says GOP & Trump are traitors, so no. But I can still get along with them and don't go out of my way to throw politics in their face. The one neighbor to the south is probably racist but I don't let him drag me into conversations about that. NOthing positive would come of it.
Wisdom.......

So few people ever ask themselves that question "what good would come of it?".

I now ask this about everything, even with those I know the best.....like my family or wife, etc.

I did once convince an Orthodox Jew who supported GWB to change his mind. He was, in his heart, a peaceful person and once he actually thought about Iraq and other things on a personal level he said "you know, you are right". It was quite amazing...took me only 25 minutes (by a pool in Florida).
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Old 08-14-2019, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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There is truth in what you say but the GOP fought tooth and nail to keep Trump from getting the nomination. He was not shoved down our throats. That may actually bolster your idiocracy analogy though.
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Are you serious? Trump won fair and square. The party didn't shove him down our throats. They fought tooth and nail against him.
Perhaps I should clarify. When I say that the two parties shoved Trump and Hillary down our throats, I'm talking about the two party system in which we are forced to elect either a D or an R. While the GOP tried to prevent Trump's nomination, once he won the nomination it was a choice between him or Hillary - neither of whom should have been a candidate.

At least Trump can claim a valid primary win, which is better than Hillary could claim.
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Old 08-14-2019, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Chicago area
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I live in a place where almost everyone supports Trump and I don't. I've lost a lot of friends since the 2016 election and all of them were because I refuse to jump on the Trump train. One thing I've noticed about most Trump supporters in my area is they care far more about getting revenge against the liberals than any specific policy aside from abortion, LGBT issues, and now immigration (that was less of an issue when they voted for him). They could care less about his lies, incompetency, morals, or even loyalty to the country as long as he tows the line on the cultural issues they care about. They also perceive Trump as "bringing God back to America" which really means the social ostracization of anybody who doesn't fall under the white evangelical Christian umbrella.
You forgot this ridiculous obsession and look over there distraction about the Clinton's. My neighbor regurgitates that nonsense every chance she gets regardless of the facts I present to her. Most of us in the neighborhood here don't support Trump. There are two out of the ten of us that do. They are definitely in the minority. They are also very low information people. One watches FOX only and the other only listens to Limbaugh. Neither would consider reading the Mueller report. Why do people only want to believe what they want to believe?
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Old 08-14-2019, 09:32 AM
 
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I can answer with a resounding NO. Vast majority of my immediate neighbors are Trump supporters. The next door neighbor that I have that isn't a Trump supporter happens to be Black. 68% of the voters in the county I live in picked Trump.
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Old 08-14-2019, 09:45 AM
 
Location: my little town
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My suburb is deep blue in a purple county that may be turning red. I'm a swing voter. I have been wondering if there is a nonpartisan future, when political parties are not worth the expense. The choice of having a suburban lifestyle of driving and mostly single-family homes suggests a common set of beliefs, beyond candidate or party.
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Old 08-14-2019, 10:30 AM
 
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Do you live in a place where your neighbors agree with your politics?

No. Not the one's I am aware of.
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Old 08-14-2019, 10:34 AM
 
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This is a question I am curious about. Do most people live in a place where others agree with them politically? On the basis of either voter registration by political party and/or political party electoral dominance, do you share the political values of people in your town, county, and state? Does it impact how much or little you like where you live?

I'll start off. My username was created a few years back when I thought I would live in New Jersey forever, now I am not sure as I am trying to secure better employment. This is related, as I blame socialism for the lack of a good job market in New Jersey. New Jersey has almost 1 million more registered Democrats than Republicans, no Republican presidential candidate has carried our state since 1988, no Republican has been elected to the U.S. Senate from our state since 1972, and all but one of our Congressional districts and a majority of our State Legislature is controlled by Democrats. We currently have a Democratic Governor, but do elect Republicans every so often to that office. I spent most of my life in a solidly Republican county and community, though recently moved to a county that is trending blue though has historically been Republican.

I don't think politics impacts my appreciation and love for New Jersey's culture, food, history, charming towns, and beautiful suburban and rural landscape, but I do disagree with the misguided priorities of Democrats who would rather spend money on building a wind farm off our coast than improving our roads. I think the fact that my home county is solidly Republican made me love it more, but that's because at the county level taxes were kept lower than in neighboring Democratic counties and the county features great parks and county roads that are well-maintained by New Jersey standards. I was never a big fan of my hometown but that had more to do with the local social scene than politics.
Most do, some don't. Most of us get along either way.
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Old 08-14-2019, 10:36 AM
 
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Originally Posted by njforlife92 View Post
This is a question I am curious about. Do most people live in a place where others agree with them politically? On the basis of either voter registration by political party and/or political party electoral dominance, do you share the political values of people in your town, county, and state? Does it impact how much or little you like where you live?

I'll start off. My username was created a few years back when I thought I would live in New Jersey forever, now I am not sure as I am trying to secure better employment. This is related, as I blame socialism for the lack of a good job market in New Jersey. New Jersey has almost 1 million more registered Democrats than Republicans, no Republican presidential candidate has carried our state since 1988, no Republican has been elected to the U.S. Senate from our state since 1972, and all but one of our Congressional districts and a majority of our State Legislature is controlled by Democrats. We currently have a Democratic Governor, but do elect Republicans every so often to that office. I spent most of my life in a solidly Republican county and community, though recently moved to a county that is trending blue though has historically been Republican.

I don't think politics impacts my appreciation and love for New Jersey's culture, food, history, charming towns, and beautiful suburban and rural landscape, but I do disagree with the misguided priorities of Democrats who would rather spend money on building a wind farm off our coast than improving our roads. I think the fact that my home county is solidly Republican made me love it more, but that's because at the county level taxes were kept lower than in neighboring Democratic counties and the county features great parks and county roads that are well-maintained by New Jersey standards. I was never a big fan of my hometown but that had more to do with the local social scene than politics.
"as I blame socialism" AND the strangle hold the unions have.
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Old 08-14-2019, 10:39 AM
 
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I live in a place where almost everyone supports Trump and I don't. I've lost a lot of friends since the 2016 election and all of them were because I refuse to jump on the Trump train. One thing I've noticed about most Trump supporters in my area is they care far more about getting revenge against the liberals than any specific policy aside from abortion, LGBT issues, and now immigration (that was less of an issue when they voted for him). They could care less about his lies, incompetency, morals, or even loyalty to the country as long as he tows the line on the cultural issues they care about. They also perceive Trump as "bringing God back to America" which really means the social ostracization of anybody who doesn't fall under the white evangelical Christian umbrella.
"I live in a place where almost everyone supports Trump and I don't."
When you LOSE your "cool" when everybody else keeps theirs, MAYBE you haven't grasped the situation"
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