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Old 08-14-2019, 08:00 AM
 
Location: NNJ
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American consumer is typically uninformed when it comes to global/political issues. They will simply choose to purchase based on their perception of value/quality and most importantly price. That places most of the public buying Chinese or foreign made products without much knowledge of global impact.

If we are too act, we have to do it before it hits consumers....

For certain items such as household products, toys, and clothing, it is near impossible to buy American much less avoid Chinese made items. Simply put... for things the typical household uses, American's simply don't manufacture the majority of the items consumed.

Food wise, it is certainly something that I do buy mostly local. A lot of our food comes from local farmer's markets... prices are actually quite good and it is fresh.

I"m surprised cars came into the discussion.... Do we have Chinese made vehicles in the US? Also as someone pointed out, some foreign branded vehicles do involve a lot of US labor and manufacturing.
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Old 08-14-2019, 08:08 AM
 
Location: NC
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Every since President Trump was running for the presidency we became even more aware of buying American made stuff.

We do not buy only American made, but over the years we started at first to eliminate China manufactured pet food and never bought a Japanese car but only US brand cars.

Most items we buy will therefore be US made and if we have to choose or can choose then we donít mind to pay a little bit more for US made.

Therefore the tariffs are not seen by us as a tax to the public but a choice you make to support the Country.

I wonder what others do or think about this subject.
Does it not bother you that he has you buying American, yet he's still getting his Trump-2020 signs made in China? Nobody knows if this is the reason or a coincidence, but he had the tarriffs pushed back till December, meantime there is evidence he has accelerated his purchasing of the Chinese made sings (the ones that say Keep America Great, LOL). Some are saying he's doing this in part, to get his signs done before the tarriff kicks in.

I did a google search, and it seems that the facts are not concrete either way. If you believe "President 12k lies", then it's false. I don't believe him, but that is not proof it's true either....
https://www.factcheck.org/2018/07/ar...made-in-china/

This one seems to say it's "mostly false": https://www.politifact.com/facebook-...ng-made-china/

But to answer the OP's question, it seems that most American's, and specifically Trump's base are still buying Chinese...

I guess it sounds good to say "buy American", but in practice, they are as likely to be Pro-American as their POTUS, which is not very much...
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Old 08-14-2019, 08:08 AM
 
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Every since President Trump was running for the presidency we became even more aware of buying American made stuff.

We do not buy only American made, but over the years we started at first to eliminate China manufactured pet food and never bought a Japanese car but only US brand cars.

Most items we buy will therefore be US made and if we have to choose or can choose then we donít mind to pay a little bit more for US made.

Therefore the tariffs are not seen by us as a tax to the public but a choice you make to support the Country.

I wonder what others do or think about this subject.

My wife and I try to as much as possible.


My footwear, which is mostly boots are all made in the USA with leather that has been tanned here as well. Socks, belt and a couple pair of jeans are US made. Being that I'm a fat guy, it's hard to find US made shirts.


My leather satchels that I carry aren't made here , but the leather was tanned in the US.


My truck and the wife's vehicle were designed and assembled in the US.


And when we can, we try to purchase our produce and meat from local farmers...
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Old 08-14-2019, 08:08 AM
 
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American consumer is typically uninformed when it comes to global/political issues. They will simply choose to purchase based on their perception of value/quality and most importantly price. That places most of the public buying Chinese or foreign made products without much knowledge of global impact.

Every place I've been in the world, that's how the consumer makes their purchases.
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Old 08-14-2019, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Boston
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Quality and price is all I look at, I don't care where anything is made.
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Old 08-14-2019, 08:17 AM
 
Location: NC
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Quality and price is all I look at, I don't care where anything is made.
In the grand scheme of things, this is the best policy. It's best for self, and really best for the country. It is free-market economics at the core, unhampered and unexploited.

Ultimately, I do the same.

(which means that if something is of poor quality, I don't buy it. Not because it came from China, but because it's poor quality. Example is the $2 grill brush at Walmart, that puts metal shards into my grilled food. I got burnt once, won't happen again. Now I look more carefully at the grill brush before I buy it, not at the certificate of origin...)
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Old 08-14-2019, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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I prefer a German car.

.. everything else, either made in Japan, or made in America.

I don't go out of my ways to avoid Made in China items, but if I have to pay more for Made in America goods, then that is fine by me too.
Everyone I know that owns a German car is either wealthy enough to buy a new one every 5 years or a master mechanic with a well equipped garage.
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Old 08-14-2019, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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That is completely false. Many of the products I buy on my farm need to be reliable and won't break easily. I have tried Chinese products in the past and they, as a rule, do not last and break easily.


Products made in the US and with US steel in them are far, far better. Look at the Bay Bridge, made with Chinese steel- what a disaster.
I was thinking electronics, textiles, and plastic goods.

Heavy Machinery I know less about, but its generally a business oriented market. Consumer goods people buy at stores for recreational uses like phones, fabrics, and toys are best when they are made in China.

Japan has a lot of heavy machinery producers.

Anyways I don't buy made in China, I just observe what consumers buy and who makes them best.
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Old 08-14-2019, 09:54 AM
 
Location: my little town
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I shop in thrift stores. It's not all American made, but it is American used.
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Old 08-14-2019, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Originally Posted by bentlebee View Post
Every since President Trump was running for the presidency we became even more aware of buying American made stuff.

We do not buy only American made, but over the years we started at first to eliminate China manufactured pet food and never bought a Japanese car but only US brand cars.

Most items we buy will therefore be US made and if we have to choose or can choose then we donít mind to pay a little bit more for US made.

Therefore the tariffs are not seen by us as a tax to the public but a choice you make to support the Country.

I wonder what others do or think about this subject.
We certainly do stick to American when possible but I am the first to admit, we do buy product manufactured elsewhere, whether China or other countries
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