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Old 08-14-2019, 10:04 AM
Status: "This is the best of all possible plutocracies." (set 11 days ago)
 
Location: Old Hippie Heaven
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Every since President Trump was running for the presidency we became even more aware of buying American made stuff.

We do not buy only American made, but over the years we started at first to eliminate China manufactured pet food and never bought a Japanese car but only US brand cars.

Most items we buy will therefore be US made and if we have to choose or can choose then we don’t mind to pay a little bit more for US made.

Therefore the tariffs are not seen by us as a tax to the public but a choice you make to support the Country.

I wonder what others do or think about this subject.
I actively avoid buying Chinese consumer goods if I can. Sometimes I can't, though. In those cases, I try to buy from an American retailer.

BTW, US brand cars are not necessarily made in the US, and I know of NO US brand cars that don't include parts from Japan, Germany, Mexico, etc., and, no doubt, from China.

For me, it's not a tariff/price issue.

While I'm sure that Chinese high-end manufacturing is world-class, their consumer goods often suck. It's also an issue of human rights, many (most?) Chinese factories producing consumer goods are essentially slave operations.

I've been making these choices for a good 20 years. I didn't require Trump to become aware of these issues. I learned about them in places like Mother Jones.
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Old 08-14-2019, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Bellingham, WA
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If I "need" rubber dog poop I'll buy "made in china"....otherwise I'm done with China, wherever possible. I look for US, Japanese, or German made items. Better yet, if you're suffering failure after failure of things like blenders and electric can openers, find yourself an ugly 70's era GE or equal at a garage sale, the things last forever. Being a tinkerer and the kind of guy that takes things apart when they break, I can tell you the Chinese cut corners wherever possible. Magnets are glued into electric motors with contact cement and pop loose, jamming the motor. Motor windings have no epoxy on them, and the wire is poorly coated so the motor developing a short or flinging a winding off is common. The bushings in my last DVD player were plastic and *designed to wear out* shortly after warranty so I'd have to buy another one.
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Old 08-14-2019, 10:44 AM
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Location: MA/NH
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I try very hard to avoid Chinese products and buy American instead. Otherwise, I love Japanese and European products.
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Old 08-14-2019, 10:58 AM
 
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Finding American made stuff is not easy. Anything manufactured with multiple parts is likely partly made in one or even several foreign countries. A good part of our food comes from outside the US. We live in a globalized economy; there is no putting that genie back in the bottle at this point.
"Finding American made stuff is not easy

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Old 08-14-2019, 05:55 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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Every place I've been in the world, that's how the consumer makes their purchases.
Never said otherwise... But this is about Americans making choices...

Also, some countries have a lot more latitude controlling what is or is not available to the customer.... For many years all vehicles in India had to be made in India: the Pajero was a rebadge and locally built Montero. China doesn't allow just anyone to sell wares to their citizens.

But that's besides the point. Thread is about Americans and saying otherwise is really two things.. A distraction from the painful direction we are headed and irrevelant to this thread. Oh and the obvious elephant in the room that no politician wants to address... That American labor in manufacturing is no longer competitive. They are OK with it because their rich pocket liners make a killing off cheap labor overseas.
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Old 08-15-2019, 05:39 AM
 
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Never said otherwise... But this is about Americans making choices...

Also, some countries have a lot more latitude controlling what is or is not available to the customer.... For many years all vehicles in India had to be made in India: the Pajero was a rebadge and locally built Montero. China doesn't allow just anyone to sell wares to their citizens.

But that's besides the point. Thread is about Americans and saying otherwise is really two things.. A distraction from the painful direction we are headed and irrevelant to this thread. Oh and the obvious elephant in the room that no politician wants to address... That American labor in manufacturing is no longer competitive. They are OK with it because their rich pocket liners make a killing off cheap labor overseas.
"That American labor in manufacturing is no longer competitive"


YET, we are the No.2 manufacturing country in the WORLD!
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Old Yesterday, 02:11 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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"That American labor in manufacturing is no longer competitive"


YET, we are the No.2 manufacturing country in the WORLD!
Title says "people are buying US made items". We are talking about manufacturing of consumer products. US labor is still no longer competitive in that sector. We export Food, Oil, Aircraft, parts, industrial machines and pharma.

Typical family household relies on a lot of products that are no longer made in the US and as many already stated in this thread, no US made alternatives. Automobiles is one of the products that still are widely available to the American consumer.. other than that there isn't much... for which all of my vehicles are for the most part US made.

There are many examples of cities that are now derelict because manufacturing was outsourced. One prime example was textiles. Why outsourced? Because again... US labor isn't competitive (due to a variety of reasons not all are in control of the laborer)
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Old Yesterday, 03:13 PM
 
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I buy stuff from all over, much of it for resale. I prefer to let the consumer decide. As of late, my sales of American made stuff (much of it made by me) have crashed. I assume leftist's hatred for America has reached a point where they are boycotting made in America goods, but who knows. Doesn't bother me, as I could use a vacation and will stay out of the shop until fall. I've been meaning to take a vacation for quite some time, but was always too busy with work.
This left-winger sometimes wishes there was a fu emoji. Perhaps your stuff is not what they are looking for.

I buy American and have since Mr. Sam died. We sold our WalMart stock and haven't been in the store since. I also told everyone I knew that every time they bought Chinese they were raising the standard of living in China.

I had to buy a iron a couple months ago. Had to have the clerk unbox to find the country of origin. It was not on the label. Of the 2, one was Chinese, the other Mexico. I told the clerk I always am eager to pay a tad more for things made in the Northern Hemisphere. He hugged me and said thanks. He was Mexican.

Some things you can't help but buy Chinese. That is due to American manufacturers, not the consumers.

I always read labels and search out where products come from before spending money.

Sorry, but i tried all American made mayonnaise. Can't give up Hellman's.
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Old Yesterday, 03:18 PM
 
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Every since President Trump was running for the presidency we became even more aware of buying American made stuff.

We do not buy only American made, but over the years we started at first to eliminate China manufactured pet food and never bought a Japanese car but only US brand cars.

Most items we buy will therefore be US made and if we have to choose or can choose then we donít mind to pay a little bit more for US made.

Therefore the tariffs are not seen by us as a tax to the public but a choice you make to support the Country.

I wonder what others do or think about this subject.
For certain goods, tools are a good example, I try not to buy Chinese and look for tools made in the US. If US tools aren't an option, I'll still try to avoid Chinese.

Other goods, like electronics, it's way too complicated trying to understand where the components originate, so it's not really practical.
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Old Yesterday, 03:23 PM
 
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I wonder sometimes if the reverse is true. Could the Chinese do without US-made goods entirely? I don't doubt that they are planning with that in mind.

The endgame:

. China owns beaucoup US .gov bonds
. China is the sole source for a lot of everyday items, including the supply chain to make them
. China is self-sufficient with the exception of raw materials bought through long-term contracts/ownership in the 3rd world
. China becomes self-sufficient at all levels including aerospace, CPU design, software, heavy industrial equipment

The further you go down that road, the less polite they are going to be. Bank on it.
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