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Old 08-14-2019, 07:45 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Mystal -- who has had a reputation for making incendiary comments in his MSNBC appearances over the past year -- made his comments during a segment in which panel members got to rail against whites who support President Trump.
isn't that pretty much 24/7/365 already?
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Old 08-14-2019, 07:55 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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"Trump supporters" are a majority of "white Americans"? Data cites are needed for that one, me thinks.
If you go by the election results, that poster’s statement is correct. Logic dictates that if Hillary got the majority of the minority vote, that Trump must have gotten the majority of the white vote in order to have won. After all, if Hillary got the majority of the white vote AND the majority of the minority vote, I don’t think it would have been possible for Trump to have won. Not even the electoral college.

But if you dont trust the logic in that, and you need a source, there are many. This one says he won 58% of the white vote.

https://solidarity-us.org/atc/186/p4859/

The Pew Research site also has Trump at 58% of the white vote.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...der-education/
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Old 08-14-2019, 08:12 AM
 
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MSNBC now openly advocating violence and racism
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Old 08-14-2019, 08:17 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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If you go by the election results, that poster’s statement is correct. Logic dictates that if Hillary got the majority of the minority vote, that Trump must have gotten the majority of the white vote in order to have won. After all, if Hillary got the majority of the white vote AND the majority of the minority vote, I don’t think it would have been possible for Trump to have won. Not even the electoral college.

But if you dont trust the logic in that, and you need a source, there are many. This one says he won 58% of the white vote.

https://solidarity-us.org/atc/186/p4859/

The Pew Research site also has Trump at 58% of the white vote.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...der-education/


58% of whites who happened to vote, yes.


Is that a "majority of white Americans"? At 58% of white voters, I'd bet not. The 2016 elections were not a banner year for voter turnout.
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Old 08-14-2019, 08:21 AM
 
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58% of whites who happened to vote, yes.


Is that a "majority of white Americans"? At 58% of white voters, I'd bet not. The 2016 elections were not a banner year for voter turnout.
uh.. it had the highest turnout of any election since 1968 except one.
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Old 08-14-2019, 08:22 AM
 
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If you go by the election results, that poster’s statement is correct. Logic dictates that if Hillary got the majority of the minority vote, that Trump must have gotten the majority of the white vote in order to have won. After all, if Hillary got the majority of the white vote AND the majority of the minority vote, I don’t think it would have been possible for Trump to have won. Not even the electoral college.

But if you dont trust the logic in that, and you need a source, there are many. This one says he won 58% of the white vote.

https://solidarity-us.org/atc/186/p4859/

The Pew Research site also has Trump at 58% of the white vote.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...der-education/
Oops! I thought it was fifty seven percent.
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Old 08-14-2019, 08:34 AM
 
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If you go by the election results, that poster’s statement is correct. Logic dictates that if Hillary got the majority of the minority vote, that Trump must have gotten the majority of the white vote in order to have won. After all, if Hillary got the majority of the white vote AND the majority of the minority vote, I don’t think it would have been possible for Trump to have won. Not even the electoral college.

But if you dont trust the logic in that, and you need a source, there are many. This one says he won 58% of the white vote.

https://solidarity-us.org/atc/186/p4859/

The Pew Research site also has Trump at 58% of the white vote.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...der-education/
Lol I find it kind of amazing that the majority of every group who doesn't identify as white counter votes white Americans. The Democrats know who their obstacle is and what is really motivating their base .
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Old 08-14-2019, 08:36 AM
 
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58% of whites who happened to vote, yes.


Is that a "majority of white Americans"? At 58% of white voters, I'd bet not. The 2016 elections were not a banner year for voter turnout.
Even if it was the worst election turnout ever (which it wasn’t), you are never going to get a bigger sample size in any other poll.
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Old 08-14-2019, 08:44 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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uh.. it had the highest turnout of any election since 1968 except one.


I guess that depends on who is giving you the numbers.




According to some it was below voter turnout in 2008 and just below 2012:
What we know...
  • Around 138 million Americans voted in the 2016 presidential election. From Business Insider.
  • However, those 138 million Americans only make up 58.1% of our voting-eligible population (those American citizens over 18). From United States Elections Project.
  • In Pennsylvania, it is estimated that 61.3% of voting-eligible population voted, around 5,965,000 people. From United States Elections Project.
  • While these numbers seem high, our voter percentage is not higher than the 2008 (61.6%) or 2012 (58.6%) election turnout. From United States Elections Project.
https://guides.libraries.psu.edu/pos.../voter-turnout




Other sources have it just above the 2012 turnout, but still a full 2 points below '08:


...About 139 million Americans, or 60.2 percent of the voting-eligible population, cast a ballot in November’s elections, according to data compiled by the U.S. Elections Project. That compares with 58.6 percent of eligible voters who turned out in 2012, but it’s below the 62.2 percent who turned out to help elect Obama for the first time in 2008....


https://thehill.com/homenews/state-w...16-topped-2012






So, as I said, not a banner year.
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Old 08-14-2019, 08:46 AM
 
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Even if it was the worst election turnout ever (which it wasn’t), you are never going to get a bigger sample size in any other poll.


So we agree there is no data to back up the claim that Trump supporters represent a majority of all white Americans.
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