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Old 08-14-2019, 11:46 AM
 
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Take it up with the places who are hiring the illegals. Hey, tell me, if all the Americans who are citizens are applying for & wanting these jobs, why aren’t the companies hiring them?
Illegals don't complain about conditions
Illegals won't try to form unions
Illegals won't go to authorities if their pay is shorted
Illegals work for cash under the table

That's just few reasons.

 
Old 08-14-2019, 11:47 AM
Status: "Proud American, Always and Forever" (set 15 days ago)
 
Location: DMV Area/NYC/Honolulu
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Take it up with the places who are hiring the illegals. Hey, tell me, if all the Americans who are citizens are applying for & wanting these jobs, why aren’t the companies hiring them?
When you can get around e-verify with stolen social security and other identifiers, not every employer will catch illegals applying for work this way. This is why you need a multi-tiered approach, to include immigration raids and deporting people who are in this country and working illegally, takings jobs away from Americans in the process. To date, there are an estimated 2 million illegals using stolen documents to work; my guess is that its much higher than that, though: https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/01/...ented-workers/

But we should make e-verify mandatory everywhere, which it is not. Good luck getting Democrats in Congress to agree to that today, though.
 
Old 08-14-2019, 11:52 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Looks like real wages will go up even more for the lower and middle classes under Trump. That's good news.
Right up until they lose their jobs.

Ken
 
Old 08-14-2019, 11:57 AM
 
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"After 680 Illegal Immigrants Arrested in MS"

OH NOES, that's 3680 votes the Democrats will need to manufacture another way.
 
Old 08-14-2019, 11:59 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Well then those farmers can use the legal route to employ migrant workers..H-2A
If so many Americans want those kinds of jobs, WHY did the Trump administration have to DOUBLE the amount of such visas?
Sounds like Americans don't want those kinds of jobs. If they did, do you think Trump would have doubled the number of visa?
Really?
REALLY?
Sounds like just more proof Americans don't WANT those types of jobs.

Ken
 
Old 08-14-2019, 12:00 PM
 
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Let's see - 600 openings and 25-30 people showed up for the job fare????
Doesn't sound "debunked" to me. Sounds like few Americans want those kinds of jobs.
Probably why the plant hired illegal aliens last time. It was probably either that, or not have enough workers to keep the plant open - in which case EVERYONE there (including AMERICANS) would lose their jobs.

Ken
Eliminate welfare. Bet their doors would be beaten down by those wanting to eat.
 
Old 08-14-2019, 12:08 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Eliminate welfare. Bet their doors would be beaten down by those wanting to eat.
No it wouldn't. Most don't live anywhere near such rural jobs.
Crime would go up dramatically though - and so would your costs for police, military etc - and the quality of your life would go down with you essentially having to fortify your home and stay indoors. Think it would be fun to live in Mogadishu?

There's a REASON all civilized countries have some type of welfare - it provides social stability for the nation. Heck even the Romans were smart enough to realize that.
Or do you the think the Romans provided "bread and circuses" out of the goodness of their hearts?
America has had some type of government-sponsored welfare since it's inception. What the government "gave away" has varied, but the government has ALWAYS given away "free stuff" - ALWAYS.

Ken
 
Old 08-14-2019, 12:34 PM
 
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No it wouldn't. Most don't live anywhere near such rural jobs.
Crime would go up dramatically though - and so would your costs for police, military etc - and the quality of your life would go down with you essentially having to fortify your home and stay indoors. Think it would be fun to live in Mogadishu?

There's a REASON all civilized countries have some type of welfare - it provides social stability for the nation. Heck even the Romans were smart enough to realize that.
Or do you the think the Romans provided "bread and circuses" out of the goodness of their hearts?
America has had some type of government-sponsored welfare since it's inception. What the government "gave away" has varied, but the government has ALWAYS given away "free stuff" - ALWAYS.

Ken
And therein lies the problem. Why work when idiots hand out free stuff to idiots?
 
Old 08-14-2019, 12:53 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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And therein lies the problem. Why work when idiots hand out free stuff to idiots?
You think Mogadishu is somehow better?
Welcome to the REAL WORLD, where yeah, you DO have to support your poor whether you like it or not - or....

Well, just ask Marie Antoinette about the alternative.

Welfare - in whatever forms - provides social stability so that businesses can thrive and folks like YOURSELF can live a decent life free from a very real threat to their lives that would be a reality otherwise.
It's a price you pay for the opportunity to live in a place that's not dog eat dog 24/7.

If you expect to have that without paying a price then YOU are the "moocher".

Ken
 
Old 08-14-2019, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Cumberland Co., TN
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The articles stated that Koch had job fairs on a regular basis. You know why? Because the job sucks and they have trouble fillings the positions.
Well they have several different plants and sometime there are openings for specific jobs in maintenance, PR, compliance and environmental managers, not just line labor jobs.
What is a regular basis. I read they had held job fairs before, not regularly.
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