U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old Yesterday, 07:55 PM
Status: "white culture is like living with radiation -IS" (set 12 days ago)
 
906 posts, read 164,853 times
Reputation: 552

Advertisements

seems like an issue between china and HK to me. hope we don't get involved
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old Yesterday, 07:55 PM
 
Location: New York Area
16,209 posts, read 6,393,207 times
Reputation: 12529
Quote:
Originally Posted by NVplumber View Post
Alarming for folks in Hong Kong. It doesn't surprise me at all. Except that it took this long. China will totally pacify Hong Kong. There's going to be a lot of people killed and the Chinese government doesn't care. Their soldiers will obey all orders without question and Hong Kong will be back in the fold.
I have some faint hope that the whole country explodes. After all:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYcz7gMnifk


So appropriate.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old Yesterday, 08:00 PM
 
46,206 posts, read 18,302,407 times
Reputation: 19284
Quote:
Originally Posted by jbgusa View Post
I have some faint hope that the whole country explodes. After all:


So appropriate.
Not happening. The people in mainland China for the most part, support this move. They've been taught to think that citizens in Hong Kong are spoiled wealthy brats whose day of reckoning has arrived.



WeChat has about a billion of them under social control.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old Yesterday, 08:18 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
11,255 posts, read 6,580,620 times
Reputation: 10848
The free loving people of Hong Kong are no match for the behemoth of the Chinese army.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old Yesterday, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
15,367 posts, read 13,465,515 times
Reputation: 4679
Quote:
Originally Posted by NVplumber View Post
Alarming for folks in Hong Kong. It doesn't surprise me at all. Except that it took this long. China will totally pacify Hong Kong. There's going to be a lot of people killed and the Chinese government doesn't care. Their soldiers will obey all orders without question and Hong Kong will be back in the fold.

So not enough people in Hong Kong are licensed to possess guns and why you would be opposed to require getting a license to own a gun in the USA?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old Yesterday, 10:51 PM
Status: "Proud American, Always and Forever" (set 10 days ago)
 
Location: DMV Area/NYC/Honolulu
12,271 posts, read 6,463,335 times
Reputation: 11941
Quote:
Originally Posted by jacqueg View Post
No, it rightfully belongs to the people who live there.

We seized ourselves by force from British rule, as I recall. Also, some of us seized ourselves by force from Mexican rule. Do you think that any US territory rightfully belongs to either Britain or Mexico?

Whether most people now living in HK approve of the protestors or not, I can't say, because I don't know. And neither do you.

Either way, it looks like another Tiananmen Square in the making. And we'll see tanks rolling over civilians again. Why you think that's justifiable, I have no idea.
Southerners tried something similar and were crushed during the Civil War.

If enough Chinese citizens want to rise up and overthrow their government, they are free to try. But a few protesters in Hong Kong are far insufficient to get it done. Most Chinese support their government, even if most Hong Kong folk don't. But Hong Kong doesn't have the strength or numbers to break way from the mainland. Our revolution against Britain involved a much more united efforts. Hong Kong stands alone, here.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old Today, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
8,639 posts, read 11,163,259 times
Reputation: 10377
Quote:
Originally Posted by prospectheightsresident View Post
Southerners tried something similar and were crushed during the Civil War.

If enough Chinese citizens want to rise up and overthrow their government, they are free to try. But a few protesters in Hong Kong are far insufficient to get it done. Most Chinese support their government, even if most Hong Kong folk don't. But Hong Kong doesn't have the strength or numbers to break way from the mainland. Our revolution against Britain involved a much more united efforts. Hong Kong stands alone, here.
The US also had the benefit of the UK being across the ocean when travel time was measured in weeks not minutes. HK is a peninsula and some islands. Conveniently connected by a new massive bridge to Shenzen now as well.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old Today, 08:39 AM
 
52,338 posts, read 42,100,175 times
Reputation: 32657
Quote:
Originally Posted by prospectheightsresident View Post
The pro-democracy protesters are not peaceful. Even in this country, force would be used to disperse protesters seeking to shut down interstates and other means of interstate/international transport, to include airports, which this group has done.

So, no, this group doesn't get any sympathy from me at the moment. And China is right to use force to clear them from the airport. But the force should be reasonable (tear gas, rubber bullets if they become violent, etc.).
I'm sure that if they kill a few thousand of them that you'll be happy to know that they only used non-violent measures and that only a dozen died and those were people killed by the protesters themselves.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old Today, 08:42 AM
Status: "Proud American, Always and Forever" (set 10 days ago)
 
Location: DMV Area/NYC/Honolulu
12,271 posts, read 6,463,335 times
Reputation: 11941
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathguy View Post
I'm sure that if they kill a few thousand of them that you'll be happy to know that they only used non-violent measures and that only a dozen died and those were people killed by the protesters themselves.
If there is an armed insurrection, that is the price of "war." Otherwise, the PRC isn't going to kill thousands of protesters for blocking an airport. The PRC may have behaved savagely in the past, but such is not going to happen here.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old Today, 08:46 AM
 
52,338 posts, read 42,100,175 times
Reputation: 32657
To roughly quote a friend of mine that was a student at Tianamen Square:

"When we heard that they were bringing in troops from outer areas (that wouldn't be relatives etc. of the students), most of us got out of there. The ones that kept protesting were actually the ones that had strong faith in the government and never thought that the "Peoples Party" would harm the people. Most people, after years of government stories, feel that nothing major happened and that the protesters were mainly a small number of criminals and radicals that were hurting others and were stopped with some minor levels of fatalities."

If Chinese media starts really heavily portraying the protesters as violent terrorists harming the Hong Kong citizenry then you'll know whats about to go down. A good ole fashioned Chinese rescue mission!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2019, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top