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Old Yesterday, 04:26 PM
 
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At once?

I'm not bothered by the individual heated murders between friends and family--they'll use whatever is on hand. That's their business.

I'm worried about those nutjobs who want to murder strangers. In a movie theater, mall, school, church. Public places where any innocent person can be shot for no reason. How many public mass murders are committed with hammers or clubs?
So do you think criminals and crazies won't be able to get guns?
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Old Yesterday, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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I don't know. Maybe your house has huge hallways and a hidden escape chute and/or a panic room that perhaps your loved one can get to. And maybe she's way faster than a crazed guy with a hammer. My missus will put holes in that person until they stop moving and I'm OK with that. You have your strategy. I have mine.
I think we're at crossed purposes. I don't support the banning of any guns. I think there should be a reasonable level of control on handguns, as they serve zero purpose other than killing people. Those that are cleared and trained should have full access to whatever their desire and budget allows.


I only have issues when data is manipulated to tell a narrative that isn't true.
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Old Yesterday, 04:30 PM
 
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I think we're at crossed purposes. I don't support the banning of any guns. I think there should be a reasonable level of control on handguns, as they serve zero purpose other than killing people. Those that are cleared and trained should have full access to whatever their desire and budget allows.


I only have issues when data is manipulated to tell a narrative that isn't true.
I agree with you on the data issue. Let the raw data tell the truth whatever that truth is. However, people who have an agenda won't let that happen.
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Old Yesterday, 04:30 PM
 
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At once?

I'm not bothered by the individual heated murders between friends and family--they'll use whatever is on hand. That's their business.

Most murders are criminal on criminal violence.


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How many public mass murders are committed with hammers or clubs?

Not a good choice for mass murder but certainly other choices available. The choice of weapon becomes irrelevant with the right planning.
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Old Yesterday, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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I agree with you on the data issue. Let the raw data tell the truth whatever that truth is. However, people who have an agenda won't let that happen.
We are in complete agreement. There's lots of agendas and $$ on both sides.
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Old Yesterday, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Near Falls Lake
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More houses built, stuff repaired and home improvements made with hammers!
Mostly they use nailGUNS these days!!
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Old Yesterday, 04:41 PM
 
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I dont care. Got that?
You cared enough to post that chart when you thought it was making your case though.
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Old Yesterday, 04:42 PM
 
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Mostly they use nailGUNS these days!!
Recently read about a guy in China who killed a local official with a nailgun after his house was destroyed by local authorities.
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Old Yesterday, 04:45 PM
 
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You cared enough to post that chart when you thought it was making your case though.
I posted the FBI chart because someone questioned the source in o.p. Im not making a case, I truely dont care what the stats are and arguing over them is a trap.
There shouldnt be one gun law on the books.
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Old Today, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Chicago area
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Wikipedia: "The rate of firearm deaths per 100,000 people rose from 10.3 per 100,000 in 1999 to 12 per 100,000 in 2017, with 109 people dying per day." "Compared to other high income nations, the U.S. gun related murder rate is 25 time higher although it has half the population of the other 22 nations combined."

So if we had 100 plus people dying per day in a plane crash would we sit on our hands and say oh well? Really?
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