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Old 08-15-2019, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Bran's tree
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Cities tend to be more polluted because that's where all the action is happening, where all the people are congregated.

Cities also tend to lean Democrat, because people who are fine living in such populated areas tend to be less individualistic and more cooperative. (Otherwise they'd live in suburbs and commute into the city to work, which means they wouldn't be able to vote in city elections)

Those two realities of cities coexist, but correlation != causation.

If anything, pollution used to be MUCH worse in cities, so they're doing a pretty good job now. It used to be that the sky would be consistently brown as you drove into LA.
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Old 08-15-2019, 11:39 AM
 
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Yep air quality means so much more to them because they’ve seen how bad it can get first hand.
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Old 08-15-2019, 11:43 AM
 
Location: NNJ
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Cities tend to be more polluted because that's where all the action is happening, where all the people are congregated.

Cities also tend to lean Democrat, because people who are fine living in such populated areas tend to be less individualistic and more cooperative. (Otherwise they'd live in suburbs and commute into the city to work, which means they wouldn't be able to vote in city elections)

Those two realities of cities coexist, but correlation != causation.

If anything, pollution used to be MUCH worse in cities, so they're doing a pretty good job now. It used to be that the sky would be consistently brown as you drove into LA.
Oh stop it... your logical response doesn't play friendly with the "Democrats are eeeevvvviiiilllll" messaging that they want to perpetuate..... simple minded must have a "good vs evil" in order to begin to comprehend.

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Old 08-15-2019, 11:44 AM
 
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Hot air?
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Old 08-15-2019, 11:55 AM
 
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https://weather.com/news/news/2019-0...climate-change

The vast majority of cities on this list of cities with the worse air pollution are run by Democrats. Why?
Your question indicates that you do not understand how to make logical inferences. The relationship between pollution in cities and Democrats in cities is an ASSOCIATION, which does not imply CAUSATION. If most cities are more heavily Democratic because of demographic distribution trends, and if big cities tend to have higher pollution because of population density, this does not mean the two factors are related in any way other than association. To prove causation, you would have to show that Democrats in big cities produce more pollution than Republicans in big cities, or that Democrats in big cities are less likely to pass ordinances to reduce pollution than are Republicans in big cities. Good luck with that.
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Old 08-15-2019, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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https://weather.com/news/news/2019-0...climate-change

The vast majority of cities on this list of cities with the worse air pollution are run by Democrats. Why?
Visalia
Fresno
Bakersfield
San Diego
All Republican. California isn't actually all Democrats. Central Valley, excluding Sacramento, and San Diego/Orange County vote more Republican than not.

Regardless it's more about population and weather patterns. The entire Central Valley is a pollution bowl. So is LA. San Jose is less but the pollution still gets trapped in. Plus the last few years with the wildfires all over California had a huge impact on rankings. It was really awful in Northern California for weeks, like worse than Beijing on a bad day awful. Contrary to somewhat popular beliefs pollution doesn't pay any attention to political affiliations.
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Old 08-15-2019, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Pacific Beach/San Diego
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California's topography (the physical shape of the land) and its warm, sunny climate are perfect for trapping and forming air pollutants. Most California cities are built on plains or in valleys surrounded by mountains. These areas are natural bowls that trap air pollution and prevent the air from circulating. On some days temperature inversions (where the air closer to the ground becomes cooler than the air above) act as lids which trap air pollutants close to the ground. This prevents vertical mixing (the upper, cleaner air mixing with the lower, polluted air) and the dispersion of pollutants.

On hot, sunny days, pollutants emitted by vehicles, industry, and many products (nitrogen oxides and volatile organic compounds) react with each other to form ozone, the main ingredient of smog.

During the winter, temperature inversions can trap tiny particles of smoke and exhaust from cars, trucks, fireplaces, and anything else that burns fuel. This keeps the pollution close to the ground - right where people are breathing.
https://ww3.arb.ca.gov/knowzone/stud...page/whyis.htm
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Old Yesterday, 11:37 PM
 
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Ironic considering how often liberals are tree-huggers!
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Old Yesterday, 11:47 PM
 
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'Cause more people want to live in cities that are primarily Democrat.
No, more people who are Democrats want to live in cities. Cities are full of leeches, parasites and predators among the normal people.
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Old Today, 12:08 AM
 
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Ironic considering how often liberals are tree-huggers!
What happens when too many people get together and combine their polluting super powers is the very reason why so many become ‘tree huggers’.
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