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Old 08-15-2019, 09:10 AM
 
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No, it's really not....I've never meet anyone you speak of....Yea, yea, yea....because I've never meet anyone, therefore there are none.....no need to bring that excuse...just prove what you say...then lets talk....





Maybe you can provide some examples....we shall wait...

Good luck, I've asked several questions with the same results.
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Old 08-15-2019, 09:11 AM
 
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Because the world was a very different place in 1939!! Good lord you think 30'000 people dying every year 'just in case' Adolf Hitler comes back around is worth it!!! Besides even if Donald Trump suddenly became the same as Adolf Hitler and decided to kill everybody with the first name Pedro how do you think you and your 'buddies' will do in fighting him off!?
You think the Germans were cavemen?

Germany was on the cusp of sending rockets into space and splitting the atom. They had some of the best universities in Europe. They had preeminent philosophers, mathmeticians and historians. Their musicians and artists were equal to most of Europe.

I'd bet most Germans could have never imagined the atrocities their government was going to commit until after it happened. They would have said they were to advanced a society for it to happen.

You're quite naive.
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Old 08-15-2019, 09:11 AM
 
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Gun nuts = people who refuse to see the 'bleedin obvious' even though the whole world can, people who value 'other' peoples lives with complete contempt, people who have been brainwashes since the day they were born about 'freedom' and '2nd amendments' - people that have an awful lot of blood on their hands.
Hey guys, guess what?? We're brainwashed about freedom and constitutional rights! On top of that, if someone else commits a crime, it's our fault!

Wow. Your mind is a like a billion synaptic bridges to nowhere. You lack the basic tenets of sound judgement in every respect. I've got news for you, the whole world is not with you or your ideology, because when the s--t hits the fan, people like you are never the ones who fix it. You are just the ones who turn their noses up as those who do. You are a sheep.
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Old 08-15-2019, 09:11 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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250 times more likely IS to do with percentages NOT population but if it makes you feel any better if we increase the 70 or so by 5 1/2 to take the population difference into account it gives us 385? Lets be generous and round it up to 400. So 'taking into account the difference in population' 400 people are shot to death every year and in the US its 30'000 + (notice the +). Doesn't make things look any better really does it?
Now calculate that by the number of guns per country.

UK: 1.8 million (1.3 million shotguns, 500,000 other firearms)

US: 450 million (as determined by the CRS and the CDC)

The US has 250 times more guns than the UK, and has 250 times more gun deaths than the UK. Looks like the US is on par with the UK in regards to gun deaths per gun. So, the UK's strict gun control laws aren't doing any better than the US.
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Old 08-15-2019, 09:12 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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No, it's really not....I've never meet anyone you speak of....Yea, yea, yea....because I've never meet anyone, therefore there are none.....no need to bring that excuse...just prove what you say...then lets talk....





Maybe you can provide some examples....we shall wait...
I already have! 30'000+ people, THIRTY THOUSAND PLUS. Nobody wants to tell me why that is such a huge, enormous figure, I cant understand why? The answer is of course very obvious. Instead of anybody answering the question they come back with a load of irrelevant bollox. Obviously its something that can't be answered without admitting that the gun culture in the US is just plain 'wrong', the 2nd amendment (whatever the hell that means) is brainwashed into the US population which means that people (like many on here) will argue against something in-arguable! It would be funny if it wasn't so bloody tragic, we are talking multiple thousands of un-necessary lost lives here! Now that ain't 'funny'. I can only hope that America 'comes to its senses' sooner rather than later on this one because nothing would please me more than seeing the US fall in line with the rest of the 1st world on this, it really is a matter of life and death.
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Old 08-15-2019, 09:21 AM
 
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I already have! 30'000+ people, THIRTY THOUSAND PLUS. Nobody wants to tell me why that is such a huge, enormous figure, I cant understand why? The answer is of course very obvious. Instead of anybody answering the question they come back with a load of irrelevant bollox. Obviously its something that can't be answered without admitting that the gun culture in the US is just plain 'wrong', the 2nd amendment (whatever the hell that means) is brainwashed into the US population which means that people (like many on here) will argue against something in-arguable! It would be funny if it wasn't so bloody tragic, we are talking multiple thousands of un-necessary lost lives here! Now that ain't 'funny'. I can only hope that America 'comes to its senses' sooner rather than later on this one because nothing would please me more than seeing the US fall in line with the rest of the 1st world on this, it really is a matter of life and death.
Do you want tougher suicide laws to reduce the majority of those 30,000?
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Old 08-15-2019, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I'm sure those felons who easily shoot police officers would be the first to follow the new legislation.
Yeahh..why can't we have "common sense" Murder control?

They are willing to violate that law..but the murderers wont risk running afoul of gun "control" laws?
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Old 08-15-2019, 09:23 AM
 
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Yeahh..why can't we have "common sense" Murder control?

They are willing to violate that law..but the murderers wont risk running afoul of gun "control" laws?
If we pass a law, they’ll follow it! /s
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Old 08-15-2019, 09:28 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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Yet, nothing about the perpetrator being a multiple felon that previously and currently broke every gun law imaginable, and other laws against violent crime. Why was he on the street? Why punish only the law abiding gun owner for the violent crime committed by this CAREER MULTIPLE FELON???

Why did the justice system fail Mr. Mayor? Why do you let these criminals back out on the street so soon to commit more crime and shoot at cops, and others. Why are you putting innocent citizens and cops at more risk?

Why don't you want law abiding citizens to be able to EFFECTIVELY DEFEND THEMSELVES from the violent criminals YOU ENABLE?
Are you supporting mass incarceration? How racist!
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Old 08-15-2019, 09:29 AM
 
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I already have! 30'000+ people, THIRTY THOUSAND PLUS. Nobody wants to tell me why that is such a huge, enormous figure, I cant understand why?

So, your argument is that these "gunnutters" are so enamored by the second amendment, that more than half kill themselves? Do you not see there is zero logic in what you are saying?


The others are thugs and I'm sure there are many that are domestic disputes also.


11 Children were killed since June in St. Louis....in Drive by shootings, were these also gunnutters or were these thugs?




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The answer is of course very obvious. Instead of anybody answering the question they come back with a load of irrelevant bollox.

I just answered your question with a lot or relevance...whether or not you are able to understand that is a different story.




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Obviously its something that can't be answered without admitting that the gun culture in the US is just plain 'wrong', the 2nd amendment (whatever the hell that means) is brainwashed into the US population which means that people (like many on here) will argue against something in-arguable!

You have to provide something to argue against...which you have not....


Unless as I stated before, is your argument really, that people are so enamored by the 2nd amendment, they are killing themselves because of the second amendment?


"2nd amendment (whatever the hell that means)"


As for this quote^^^^ you should look it up and read it, then you still may or may not understand it....


Instead of saying, whatever that means....


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It would be funny if it wasn't so bloody tragic, we are talking multiple thousands of un-necessary lost lives here! Now that ain't 'funny'.

It's not, but do tell, since you seem to be so full of facts here...where is most of the violence, AND would most of those people even follow new laws?


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I can only hope that America 'comes to its senses' sooner rather than later on this one because nothing would please me more than seeing the US fall in line with the rest of the 1st world on this, it really is a matter of life and death.

300,000,000 guns in the United States....using your figure of 30,000 (I'll give you 40K, just for giggles) can you figure out the possibility of being shot and killed...and then take out those that committed suicide, then re-do the math....


Being killed by a gun, is so far down the line of how you can be killed here in the U.S.A., but yet, you don't care about facts....
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