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Old 08-15-2019, 08:23 AM
 
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great idea....and put up a sign placing blame where it belongs....showing which countries have caused CO2 levels to go up

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ederations.png
So it is not man made? Except for men in China?
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Old 08-15-2019, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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You can do whatever you want, but if you had a business (any business) publicly denying human influenced climate change I would not patronize you unless I had no other options.

I don't like liars, and I don't like it when self interested business people perpetrate lies to line their pockets.

I didn't like it when the tobacco industry denied the dangers of smoking, and I didn't like it when the petrochemical industry denied human influenced climate change. Their self interested lies are reprehensible to me.

Oil industry knew of 'serious' climate concerns more than 45 years ago

Fortunately, the larger fossil fuel companies are starting to come clean and acknowledge what we already know. They are modifying their own business models and changing their investment strategies.

"We do not fund or support those who deny the reality of climate change.”
Richard Keil, Exxon spokesman
Big oil is now investing in green energy...

https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...11467X19300574
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Old 08-15-2019, 08:31 AM
 
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Big oil is now investing in green energy...

https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...11467X19300574
Because they know what direction the political winds are blowing (re: onerous regulations, laws, rules, restrictions), guaranteed it isn't climate altruism.
You can thank a politician for your higher energy prices while enjoying the same old ever changing climate.

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Old 08-15-2019, 08:33 AM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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No, but a sign should be placed over the Electrical Vehicle Charging Station saying “Electric car batteries are hazardous to the environment”.

https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/334059
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Old 08-15-2019, 08:37 AM
 
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No, but a sign should be placed over the Electrical Vehicle Charging Station saying “Electric car batteries are hazardous to the environment”.

https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/334059
And the ev's should also have a content label showing all the petroleum products used A-Z in the manufacturing process. Including the by-products that result in the mining of precious metals required for battery manufacturing.
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Old 08-15-2019, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Because they know what direction the political winds are blowing (renerous regulations, laws, rules, restrictions), guaranteed it isn't climate altruism.
You can thank a politician for your higher energy prices while enjoying the same old ever changing climate.
Higher energy prices? They don't affect me.
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Old 08-15-2019, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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And the ev's should also have a content label showing all the petroleum products used A-Z in the manufacturing process. Including the by-products that result in the mining of precious metals required for battery manufacturing.
Do you think ICE cars are manufactured without using petroleum products?.....

Battery technology is in it's infancy and is advancing rapidly.... Lithium may be phased out soon.

Honda is the latest automaker investing in what it sees as the next big breakthrough in battery technology—not more advanced lithium-ion, such as solid-state lithium-ion cells—but entirely different battery chemistry.

"Fluoride-ion batteries offer a promising new battery chemistry with up to ten times more energy density than currently available Lithium batteries. Unlike Li-ion batteries, FIBs do not pose a safety risk due to overheating, and obtaining the source materials for FIBs creates considerably less environmental impact than the extraction process for lithium and cobalt."

https://www.auto123.com/en/news/hond...ide-ion/65391/

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Old 08-15-2019, 08:57 AM
 
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While we're at it, put "cancer is a hoax" on cigarette boxes..
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Old 08-15-2019, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Gas station owners would be fools to play politics. Keep business and politics separate, I say.
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Old 08-15-2019, 09:03 AM
 
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If I was a gas station owner. I would do everything in my power to push back on a movement that’s basically trying to put me out of business over a hoax. To the life of me I don’t understand why gas station owners haven’t pushed back? Good idea? Bad idea?
We need to make it mandatory on the front of cell phones.

Imagine a liberal ranting about the environment in a forum via a phone with "The production of this device used heavy metals and caustic chemicals and contributed to global warming."

Then again, they don't want to change their lives and behavior only others, so I guess they'd just ignore it.
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