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The idea is always to fill it up with less fuel...and go further. It's a curve.
We get 44 MPG average on our new sedan, 2X what the former one got. I shouldn't have to work out the math....that if the fleet of the USA does the same, over time, that the air will be much cleaner and it will cost people less AND there can be more money for infrastructure, etc.
Using less gas means less money for infrastructure as little fuel tax is collected. Most of my diesel trucks use biodiesel except my Western Star 10 wheeler. I use regular diesel for that vehicle which gets maybe 10 mpg once it’s in 10th gear.
Using less gas means less money for infrastructure as little fuel tax is collected..
No, that's short term thinking...which is what has gotten us into the messes of today!
The "gas tax" should be adjusted or collected in a different fashion (so as to include EV's) and made large enough so that we pay for what we do.
The current method is typically American - which means it cost more to do less. What we are dealing with now is crumbling infrastructure AND when we fix parts of it, we borrow the money to do so (debt and deficit)....
It's very "conservative" to use appropriate technology, although the term was coined by the far left (Whole Earth?).......that is, you use the tool for the job. We need trucks to haul stuff after the ships and trains get done with it. But if we are discussing the largest segment...passenger vehicles, we need them to be safe, efficient and as clean as possible.
That is how every industry...and every advanced country...works. But in the case of very large changes, Government is needed as somewhat of a referee and guarantee (TVA to Hoover Dam to the Telegraph and the Aviation industry, etc.). These things are just too big to get started without planning.
Current ICE vehicles are 40X as clean as older ones. The people declaring "hoax" here are getting massive benefits from this...as are their families and friends and most every living thing. There is never a reason that progress should stop.
So, it's conservative to use the best tech for whatever job....not worthwhile taking a dump truck for a run to get a bag of topsoil. It's progressive to continue to improve things. This has been the entire path of mankind up to the present and any thoughts that we should go back or stop doing it are simply wrongheaded. We make plenty of mistakes along the way, but in the end we now have chips made from sand that do the work of buildings full of relays.
If I was a gas station owner. I would do everything in my power to push back on a movement that’s basically trying to put me out of business over a hoax. To the life of me I don’t understand why gas station owners haven’t pushed back? Good idea? Bad idea?
If I owned a gas station, I think I would be thinking about upgrading it to a wayside charging station. I'm sure the livery stables and carriagemakers weren't happy about the advent of the horseless carriage. At one point, the rumor was spread that if a human being exceeded 25 miles an hour, it was certain death.
Change happened anyway, in spite of their best efforts. It is in the process of happening again, and the owners of the oil companies and internal combusion engine manufacturing plants aren't happy about it. They will have a hard time competing with a vehicle that requires minimal maintenance and repair, and no gasoline to operate.
It's a lot like the digital revolution. When people realized they could shoot all day and didn't have to plunk down a sawbuck to get each roll of film developed, they adopted it readily. Film is still available, but it is more of a novelty than a necessity nowadays.
If I was a gas station owner. I would do everything in my power to push back on a movement that’s basically trying to put me out of business over a hoax. To the life of me I don’t understand why gas station owners haven’t pushed back? Good idea? Bad idea?
Gas station owners are not in the business of public "education." The public would look at such a sign as being self-serving, and therefore invalid. It's like tobacco companies advertising that smoking is good for you. No one would take it seriously, and some people would be offended.
If I was a gas station owner. I would do everything in my power to push back on a movement that’s basically trying to put me out of business over a hoax. To the life of me I don’t understand why gas station owners haven’t pushed back? Good idea? Bad idea?
Run your business as you see fit. Let the market decide.
I am not that much of a scientific person but I agree with the idea that climate change is both natural and man-made. Now, to what degree each plays into climate change is another thread. As far as that gas station owner, I would simply put a sign-up saying something to the effect of "Climate is both natural and man-made. The who/what/where/when/why/how of either occurring is debatable, as is finding reputable science that favors both. So, don't believe all claims that man-made climate change is a hoax."
If I was a gas station owner. I would do everything in my power to push back on a movement that’s basically trying to put me out of business over a hoax. To the life of me I don’t understand why gas station owners haven’t pushed back? Good idea? Bad idea?
People have made up their minds one way or the other if it's a hoax or not, no matter what people post outside.
Sort of on the same lines as if someone started posting that God isn't a hoax in front of strip clubs and porn shops and that customers are going to go to Hell or someone stated posting that God is a hoax in the front of churches and no one's going to Hell for doing bad things. Basically the only point that will be communicated with such signage is that "someone" is a little nutty, either way.
So, you call for the "free market" when it has been protectionism, monopolies (or close), vast tax and lobby schemes, etc. that gave us the ICE car culture we have today???
Frank, this is truly amazing.
Consumers never made the choices. Those choices were dictated by the Big 2 and largely the Big One (GM).
It's not a fallacy to do a parts count on where EV's are headed compared to ICE. Nor is it one to look at the engineers who claim a Model 3 is built for 300K miles (and perhaps more).
A vast number of rooftops in my area have PV on them...and, sure, even making solar cells isn't clean....but compare an average 25MPG ICE vehicle these days with a home-charged EV, in terms of the air pollutants released (let alone national security and other things) and I think the difference will be VAST.
Our species has the special gift of being able to look into the future. But we don't do it often enough. Look at the recent "debates" over incandescent bulbs. Only a caveman wouldn't approve of a 90% savings in energy - and air pollution - using modern technology.
EV's are no different other than it will take a little longer due to the complexity. But remember when LED light bulbs were over $40 each...not too long ago!
If anything we need to give more government subsidies to EV tech (US MADE TECH) because it serves so many purposes...which I don't think need to be spelled out.
Then again, if your preference it to buy EV's and the tech from China, we should keep on doing exactly what we are doing.
So double down on subsidies? No thanks, lets end them all.
Yes consumers and their needs (you know the people that will actually pay for and drive the car?) should drive the market. You all act like EV's are the second coming when they have been around the whole time. Sorry its just a fact that they dont make sense to so many drivers and if it werent for the subsidies, tax breaks and propaganda, the sales would be much less than they are now.
I say the politicians stay out of transportation and energy we might just get a flying car or teleportation.
Do you think Gas Station Owners should start placing info signs educating the public on the man made climate change hoax
If I was a gas station owner. I would do everything in my power to push back on a movement that’s basically trying to put me out of business over a hoax. To the life of me I don’t understand why gas station owners haven’t pushed back? Good idea? Bad idea?
Bad idea. You aren't thinking ahead to ALL the consequences of your plan and your political statement. Not only would you lose a lot of customers, you would also lose a lot of your suppliers. So one way or the other you'd end up going out of business anyway.
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