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Old 08-15-2019, 12:35 PM
 
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As long as I have to flip the bill on the healthcare for smokers, I want the biggest warning sign on it I can get.
Now if you don't use Medicare at 65+ when the big bucks are spent on COPD and lung cancer, then do what you want.


Doing "what you want" for 40 years in this case should lead you to a grave or on your private insurance, not in a hospital being cared for by tax payers.
Do you feel the same way about obesity ? That's also a huge cost to the healthcare system the older one gets.

14% smoke as of 2016 and that number is decreasing each year.
26% are obese and that number is increasing each year.

I think you can leave the cigs alone...it's use is waning out naturally.

How's about some gross pictures on ice cream to deter obesity ?
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Old 08-15-2019, 12:45 PM
 
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As long as I have to flip the bill on the healthcare for smokers, I want the biggest warning sign on it I can get.
Now if you don't use Medicare at 65+ when the big bucks are spent on COPD and lung cancer, then do what you want.


Doing "what you want" for 40 years in this case should lead you to a grave or on your private insurance, not in a hospital being cared for by tax payers.
You might not be as important as you think.
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Old 08-15-2019, 12:53 PM
 
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As long as I have to flip the bill on the healthcare for smokers, I want the biggest warning sign on it I can get.
Now if you don't use Medicare at 65+ when the big bucks are spent on COPD and lung cancer, then do what you want.


Doing "what you want" for 40 years in this case should lead you to a grave or on your private insurance, not in a hospital being cared for by tax payers.

PArt of the problem of socialized medicine.


You're laying out the justification to now control salt, fats, your daily calorie intake, childcare etc.
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Old 08-15-2019, 12:54 PM
 
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PArt of the problem of socialized medicine.


You're laying out the justification to now control salt, fats, your daily calorie intake, childcare etc.
But that is exactly socialized medicine.

When the government controls you they get to call the shots.
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Old 08-15-2019, 12:55 PM
 
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As someone who lost a grandparent to cancer from smoking, I am all for saving someone else’s grandparent via deterrence..

I love freedom more than I hate bad lifestyle choices. Free people need to be free to fail
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Old 08-15-2019, 12:58 PM
 
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How's about some gross pictures on ice cream to deter obesity ?

Thats awesome


Grotesque pictures on salt shakers, tubs of KFC, big gulps, round-up...heck, wrap a whole motorcycle in an image of a guy dead in a ditch.


It's absurd. Just let us adults live free and make choices for ourselves on the soil we pay for. Build roads and shut your faces.
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Old 08-15-2019, 12:59 PM
 
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Years ago there was a commercial featuring smokers with lung cancer smoking through their blow holes
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Old 08-15-2019, 01:01 PM
 
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Oh praise Uncle Sammy for keeping us safe!
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Old 08-15-2019, 01:01 PM
 
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Smoking is one of those issues that is as non-partisan as it gets.

The US has trailed what's happening with packaging in the EU for decades.
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Old 08-15-2019, 01:02 PM
 
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Thats awesome


Grotesque pictures on salt shakers, tubs of KFC, big gulps, round-up...heck, wrap a whole motorcycle in an image of a guy dead in a ditch.


It's absurd. Just let us adults live free and make choices for ourselves on the soil we pay for. Build roads and shut your faces.
LOL..just spend an afternoon at the entrance doors to Walmart and take pictures.
Would be enough to scare anyone into dieting
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