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Old Yesterday, 07:44 AM
 
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With more than 480,000 fatalities each year, cigarette smoking is the leading cause of preventable death in the United States, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Though the habit has declined, an estimated 34 million adults still smoke — and about 16 million are battling smoking-related diseases, the CDC said.

“The new graphic warnings are a dramatic improvement over the current text-only warnings that have become stale and unnoticed,” said a joint statement from leading health organizations, including the American Cancer Society, American Heart Association, American Lung Association and the American Academy of Pediatrics. “They are supported by extensive scientific evidence, and they will help the United States catch up to the 120-plus countries that have adopted this best-practice strategy to reduce tobacco use and save lives.”

Smoking is the deadliest behavior we engage in AND more people die from smoking than from anything else.

Continuing to raise awareness about the consequences of smoking is a no brainer to me. This is an important role of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.
Smoking,why isnt it banned? And Isn't that the role of the FDA? Hmmm something stinks

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Old Yesterday, 07:52 AM
 
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Smoking,why isnt banned? And Isn't that the role of the FDA? Hmmm something stinks
I really don't understand what you are implying, but I was just completing my comments in post #51, with the following, as you wrote yours:

Continuing to raise awareness about the consequences of smoking is a no brainer to me. This is an important role of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. The only groups opposing the new warnings are the tobacco companies...gosh I wonder why?

https://www.federalregister.gov/docu...advertisements

The FDA’s proposed warnings, mandated by the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act of 2009, come years after it unsuccessfully sought to require similarly graphic labels. Those were blocked in court by tobacco companies that claimed the warnings violated their First Amendment rights.

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Old Yesterday, 07:55 AM
 
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History has shown they are helpful. Cry me a less-free river.
Lol. Don't know any smokers do you?

They're not.
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Old Yesterday, 07:58 AM
 
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Smoking,why isnt banned? And Isn't that the role of the FDA? Hmmm something stinks
At least that would be a principled position, if the FDA comes out and says, "cigarettes with a 50% mortality rate, are unfit for human consumption," fine.

But to on one hand permit the sale thereof, collect taxes on them, but then demonize and dehumanize smokers, is just plain sick.

Kinda like allowing a pourous border but knowing full well that people are murdered and raped crossing, then once here they're treated like second class citizens and slaves without any status. Even more sick...But thats another discussion
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Old Yesterday, 08:05 AM
 
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At least that would be a principled position, if the FDA comes out and says, "cigarettes with a 50% mortality rate, are unfit for human consumption," fine.

But to on one hand permit the sale thereof, collect taxes on them, but then demonize and dehumanize smokers, is just plain sick.

Kinda like allowing a pourous border but knowing full well that people are murdered and raped crossing, then once here they're treated like second class citizens and slaves without any status. Even more sick...But thats another discussion
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Old Yesterday, 08:06 AM
 
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As someone who lost a grandparent to cancer from smoking, I am all for saving someone else’s grandparent via deterrence..
I think they should post pics of human fat and graphic images of obese people on the packages of fast food...
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Old Yesterday, 08:30 AM
 
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I really don't understand what you are implying, but I was just completing my comments with the following as you posted:

Continuing to raise awareness about the consequences of smoking is a no brainer to me. This is an important role of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. The only groups opposing the new warnings are the tobacco companies...gosh I wonder why?

https://www.federalregister.gov/docu...advertisements

The FDA’s proposed warnings, mandated by the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act of 2009, come years after it unsuccessfully sought to require similarly graphic labels. Those were blocked in court by tobacco companies that claimed the warnings violated their First Amendment rights.
You dont see the inconsistency with an agency that in its own words
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The Food and Drug Administration is responsible for protecting the public health by ensuring the safety, efficacy, and security of human and veterinary drugs, biological products, and medical devices; and by ensuring the safety of our nation's food supply, cosmetics, and products that emit radiation.
And in your own words: "more people die from smoking than from anything else."
Said watchdog agency deals with said lethal hazard by placing a label on it and calling it a day, all the while benefitting greatly from the tax dollars generated by the sale of it.
Meanwhile the same agency; bans, prohibits, stonewalls,limits the availability of,makes cost prohibitive, etc., certain substances that are beneficial or may prove such to the end user.
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Old Yesterday, 10:40 AM
 
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Excellent point. I have said for a long time that we need to do with booze what we've done with tobacco. Make the tax something like 1000%, or even more. How many 21 year olds would be buying a six pack or a shot if it cost a couple hundred dollars?
Would certainly help plug Trump's trillion dollar annual deficits
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Old Yesterday, 11:10 AM
 
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Excellent point. I have said for a long time that we need to do with booze what we've done with tobacco. Make the tax something like 1000%, or even more. How many 21 year olds would be buying a six pack or a shot if it cost a couple hundred dollars?
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Would certainly help plug Trump's trillion dollar annual deficits
So no longer a health threat once taxed sufficiently?
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