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Old 08-19-2019, 10:28 PM
 
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How should I? I've answered my door with concern and sometimes a gun within reach. I was just replying to a specific post.
If I have a need to pull a gun I would not open the door in the first place. Counter intuitive. Think about it. Basically if you agree with this then anyone can pull a gun on anyone. Blacks could easily say that they fear whites do to white supremacy and pull a gun on them walking down the street.
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Old 08-19-2019, 10:36 PM
 
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If I have a need to pull a gun I would not open the door in the first place. Counter intuitive. Think about it. Basically if you agree with this then anyone can pull a gun on anyone. Blacks could easily say that they fear whites do to white supremacy and pull a gun on them walking down the street.
I never said anything about pulling a gun on anyone, just having one within reach. But I can see there could be a case of opening your door or walking down the street and needing to pull a gun in self defense.
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Old 08-19-2019, 10:37 PM
 
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If I have a need to pull a gun I would not open the door in the first place. Counter intuitive. Think about it. Basically if you agree with this then anyone can pull a gun on anyone. Blacks could easily say that they fear whites do to white supremacy and pull a gun on them walking down the street.
I respond to how someone presents themselves. Present yourself like a thug. I will be on guard, regardless of race.
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Old 08-19-2019, 10:48 PM
 
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I respond to how someone presents themselves. Present yourself like a thug. I will be on guard, regardless of race.
And in this case that does not appear to have happened.
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Old 08-19-2019, 10:51 PM
 
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I never said anything about pulling a gun on anyone, just having one within reach. But I can see there could be a case of opening your door or walking down the street and needing to pull a gun in self defense.
Pulling a gun on innocents is what this thread is about. The woman pulled a gun for not good cause. Be honest. She did it because they were black. She did not have to answer the door. If you are ok with that then you have to allow black people pulling guns on white people out of fear.
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Old 08-19-2019, 10:52 PM
 
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And in this case that does not appear to have happened.
I would not think so. Pulling a gun on those teenagers was not called for.
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Old 08-19-2019, 11:35 PM
 
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Pulling a gun on innocents is what this thread is about. The woman pulled a gun for not good cause. Be honest. She did it because they were black. She did not have to answer the door. If you are ok with that then you have to allow black people pulling guns on white people out of fear.
I don't know why she did it. I wasn't there and don't know her side of the story. I never said I was ok with it or not. I was just replying to a post regarding why some people are more cautious or scared of black males.
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Old 08-20-2019, 12:39 AM
 
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How should I know? I've answered my door with concern and sometimes a gun within reach. I was just replying to a specific post.
THIS is what is wrong with America.

I have firearms, I hunt, I target shoot, and I collect. Never in my life have I ever, ever considered to want to have a gun for "self-defence", and certainly not for "just in case".

What is the matter with you people? I leave my doors unlocked whether I am in the bald assed prairie in the summer/fall, or in my Florida condo in the winter/spring, unless I am not at home.

The fear factor way too many gun owners display is beyond my comprehension. No wonder the USA has the highest gun deaths in the developed world, and among the top 3 of the whole world. Mexico, Venezuela, Columbia, all are much, much less.

Stop the insanity of "need to have a gun".
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Old 08-20-2019, 12:47 AM
 
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THIS is what is wrong with America.

I have firearms, I hunt, I target shoot, and I collect. Never in my life have I ever, ever considered to want to have a gun for "self-defence", and certainly not for "just in case".

What is the matter with you people? I leave my doors unlocked whether I am in the bald assed prairie in the summer/fall, or in my Florida condo in the winter/spring, unless I am not at home.

The fear factor way too many gun owners display is beyond my comprehension. No wonder the USA has the highest gun deaths in the developed world, and among the top 3 of the whole world. Mexico, Venezuela, Columbia, all are much, much less.

Stop the insanity of "need to have a gun".
People do have to sometimes defend themselves with a gun. In most cases I'm personally aware of a gun being pulled caused the attacker(s) to flee and no one got hurt. While the odds or low anyone will have to defend themselves with a gun, when you need to, you really need to.
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Old 08-20-2019, 04:02 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I live in a subdivision where I've frequently seen kids cut through backyards, goof around in the street, and I've never seen anyone pull a gun on a kid. It's viewed as kids being kids. Maybe those kids were goofing around and being stupid. I was once a kid. I remember the days when I walked through yards to get to the neighborhood creek. I never once thought as a kid of some neighbor pulling a gun on me. I still maintain the standard that you should only pull out a gun when your life is in danger.
That has nothing to do with what happened.
No one ever hung around or played around a neighbors yard unless they were from that neighborhood. If some unknown kids were doing that they were called out.
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