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Old Yesterday, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas & San Diego
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Originally Posted by travis t View Post
why couldn't you just have a little packet of firecrackers for such a scenario? Less weight than a tub style high caliper clip filled with bullets, no?
Around here, firecrackers are illegal - they can start fires.
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Old Yesterday, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Has the UK government committed any massacres in that time? It is exempt from the 1988 ban, no? Regardless of weapon what is its record on killing like it's a bodily function?

Hint: up thread we saw a blurb about hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqi children. My advice would be to start there.
Given Britain's limited role in Iraq, I don't think you can blame is for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of children.

As for massacres, if anything the legislation has prevented them, and the Government in the UK is subject to human rights laws including the right to life, whilst most police officers in Great Britain (95%) are unarmed, and the country does not have capital punishment.
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Old Yesterday, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Some Beach... Somewhere...
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why couldn't you just have a little packet of firecrackers for such a scenario? Less weight than a tub style high caliper clip filled with bullets, no?
Why not just carry a little pink Hello Kitty whistle?

The correct term is “standard capacity magazine”. Nothing at all high capacity about my 30-rnd mags. They’re what came with the gun as provided by the manufacturer. If I cannot be trusted with 30 rounds, why should I be trusted with 20 or 10 or even one?

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well regulated, means TRAINED
Look at the old clocks typically found in train stations and prized in some homes fortunate enough to have them. They’re labeled as “Regulator”, indicating a properly working device capable of functioning as expected with a high level of precision in accomplishing the expected task.

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Has the UK government committed any massacres in that time? It is exempt from the 1988 ban, no? Regardless of weapon what is its record on killing like it's a bodily function?
British citizens are subjects of the Crown and have been conditioned for centuries to follow the whims of government without question. Gun rights in the Crown countries have been whittled away and people follow edicts without question and never assert their rights as they believe they don’t have any. Their guns have been outlawed and knife violence has increased. Next to be taken will be those knives, followed by pointy sticks, and rocks. Criminals and the violence-prone will not be so impeded, but the psychological battle with the citizens has been long won.
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Old Yesterday, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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https://thehill.com/homenews/news/45...-fox-news-poll

Looking forward to all the MAGA righties telling us how socialist /communist /leftist faux news has become lol
Not nice to call CNN faux news. It's true, but not nice!
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Old Yesterday, 04:58 PM
 
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Do honestly believe that it makes much of a difference what kind of gun it is if a maniac goes into school and attacks young kids in a classroom with no way to escape and unarmed teachers? The outcome will be the same.
So you are advocating doing nothing to curb gun violence in America,remember that when we are discussing the next mass shooting.
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Old Yesterday, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas & San Diego
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We already had an assault weapon ban back in 1994, so it's not exactly unprecedented. It survived several constitutional challenges, but not the politics.
This law was way more broad than people realize - called the "Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994" the part labeled "TITLE XI--FIREARMS Subtitle A--Assault Weapons" is the part dealing with the Assault Weapons. This banned some 18 specific firearms by name and a few scary features. It was not effective because it was more of a feel good measure.

The ban never reached the Supreme court level. From politico

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Assault weapons bans have mostly been adjudicated in state courts thus far, where judges have generally been inclined to uphold them. A federal ban, however, were it to end up before the Supreme Court, would most likely be evaluated in terms of the Second Amendment without much regard to state precedent.
The actual law - https://www.congress.gov/bill/103rd-.../3355/text/enr

This law was part of a very broad bill and it included things like

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TITLE VI--DEATH PENALTY

TITLE VII--MANDATORY LIFE IMPRISONMENT FOR PERSONS CONVICTED OF CERTAIN FELONIES

TITLE VIII--APPLICABILITY OF MANDATORY MINIMUM PENALTIES IN CERTAIN CASES

TITLE IX--DRUG CONTROL


TITLE X--DRUNK DRIVING PROVISIONS

TITLE XI--FIREARMS

TITLE XII--TERRORISM
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TITLE XIII--CRIMINAL ALIENS AND IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT

Sec. 130001. Enhancement of penalties for failing to depart, or reentering, after final order of deportation.
Sec. 130002. Criminal alien tracking center.
Sec. 130003. Alien witness cooperation and counterterrorism information.
Sec. 130004. Deportation procedures for certain criminal aliens who are not permanent residents.
Sec. 130005. Expeditious deportation for denied asylum applicants.
Sec. 130006. Improving border controls.
Sec. 130007. Expanded special deportation proceedings.
Many of the bold are things dems are saying are cruel now.
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Old Yesterday, 05:37 PM
 
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Who are you to determine what anyone else “needs?”

And what is an “assault weapon?”

I dont think that guy needs money food or shelter. Since we are in the business of telling people what they need lol.
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Old Yesterday, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas & San Diego
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why couldn't you just have a little packet of firecrackers for such a scenario? Less weight than a tub style high caliper clip filled with bullets, no?
Tub style? no such thing

High Caliper - A caliper is a device used to measure the distance between two opposite sides of an object.

If you mean High Caliber - caliber is the width of the round - you could use a caliper to measure the caliber of a gun or round. The most talked about "assault weapon" is the AR-15 and it is most common as a very small caliber known as .223 (NATO designation 5.56mm) which is about same caliber as the smallest widely available round, the .22 - this round is definitely not a high caliber round. The main reason that the US and later NATO moved to this round was that it was much lighter by about half over the .30 caliber rounds used prior.
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Old Yesterday, 06:16 PM
 
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Tub style? no such thing

High Caliper - A caliper is a device used to measure the distance between two opposite sides of an object.

If you mean High Caliber - caliber is the width of the round - you could use a caliper to measure the caliber of a gun or round. The most talked about "assault weapon" is the AR-15 and it is most common as a very small caliber known as .223 (NATO designation 5.56mm) which is about same caliber as the smallest widely available round, the .22 - this round is definitely not a high caliber round. The main reason that the US and later NATO moved to this round was that it was much lighter by about half over the .30 caliber rounds used prior.

Stop letting facts get into the way of their propoganda.

Wait for them to hear about the AR10. LOL. they will lose it when they find out the AR15 has a big brother....
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Old Yesterday, 06:20 PM
 
Location: USA
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Stop letting facts get into the way of their propoganda.

Wait for them to hear about the AR10. LOL. they will lose it when they find out the AR15 has a big brother....
And the semi auto M-14, M1A1. Much more devastating. But they want ALL semi autos. Morons.
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