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Old 08-15-2019, 04:34 PM
 
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The majority of American's are against knelling for the national anthem. The majority of American's are against burning our flag. However there is a thing called the constitution that prevents the masses from trampling on our fundamental rights. We have a thing called the Second Amendment. You might have heard about it. It protects us and allows us to keep and bear arms!
It doesn't say we can't regulate them. Tell me why you need a semi automatic with large mags for deer hunting and home defense
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Old 08-15-2019, 04:35 PM
 
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Approximately half of all the 300 million guns currently owned by American citizens are semi automatic.

The technology has been massed produced for over 100 years now.


Magazines aren't regulated at all..... probably hundreds of millions of them in circulation also. And really aren't that hard to modify to extend capacity.

How are you going to put that horse back in the barn without door to door searches and confiscations?
Yet most if not all of the recent mass shootings domestically were carried out with legally purchased weapons prior to the acts being carried out
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Old 08-15-2019, 04:37 PM
 
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It doesn't say we can't regulate them. Tell me why you need a semi automatic with large mags for deer hunting and home defense
The 2a has NOTHING to do with hunting. Nothing. It's a misconception to cloud the issue.

It's for home, personal, family or community defense, or to protect against a tyrannical or invading government.



I already know why I want to own these guns. That's the only justification I need. It doesn't matter whether you think I need them or not.
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Old 08-15-2019, 04:43 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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It doesn't say we can't regulate them.
Who's "We"?

It says no government can infringe on our right to own and carry arms.

In other word, it says govt can't regulate them.

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Tell me why you need a semi automatic with large mags
When I decide you need to know that information about me, I'll be in touch.
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Old 08-15-2019, 04:53 PM
 
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It doesn't say we can't regulate them. Tell me why you need a semi automatic with large mags for deer hunting and home defense
See that is you asking people to justify it. That is you forcing your opinion on others. I do not own any rifles. However I respect the rights of others. I only own high capacity magazines. You know why? Because if someone breaks into my house I I don't want to search around for them. I don't want to reload. BTW there are probably hundreds of millions of high capacity magazines in existence. None of them have serial numbers. No one will turn in their magazines. It is asinine and pointless to ban them. Any one looking to buy them will have zero problem getting their hands on them!

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Old 08-15-2019, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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https://thehill.com/homenews/news/45...-fox-news-poll

Looking forward to all the MAGA righties telling us how socialist /communist /leftist faux news has become lol
Who cares? The opinion of the people doesn’t change the Constitution. The entire purpose of our founding documents was to prevent mob rule.
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Old 08-15-2019, 05:09 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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What percentage of Americans know that the last time the U.S. had an "assault weapons" ban, it didn't reduce gun violence at all? People kept getting killed at the same rate.
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Old 08-15-2019, 05:10 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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The entire purpose of our founding documents was to prevent mob rule.
And the entire purpose of chopchop0 is to foment mob rule.
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Old 08-15-2019, 05:12 PM
 
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https://thehill.com/homenews/news/45...-fox-news-poll

Looking forward to all the MAGA righties telling us how socialist /communist /leftist faux news has become lol


Constitutional rights cannot be rescinded or awarded by polls.


Thank God we have a Constitution to protect us from liberal fascists.
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Old 08-15-2019, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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Two-thirds of Americans support assault weapons ban: Fox News poll
Define the term "assault weapon" and then we can begin to have a discussion. If we're talking an assault rifle, then we're talking about something very specific: A fully-automatic rifle. Holding the trigger in results in multiple rounds firing in succession. These are already somewhere in the neighborhood of insanely difficult to damn near impossible to purchase.

Now if we're redefining terms, then we need to be clear what we're talking about. The vast, vast, vast, vast majority of everything that is not fully automatic is semi-automatic in one way or another. Revolver or slide. Tube loaded or using a clip. They all do pretty much the same thing. One trigger pull = one bullet fires. If there is anything within this category that the Left wants to ban, then it's going to get stupidly messy and weird. For example, you'd now need to explain why a 10 round tube is okay, but a 10 round clip isn't. What characteristics do you ban and what do you not ban? Is a semi-automatic handgun okay, but a semi-automatic rifle not okay? Why? Shotguns banned or no? Hunting rifles? Hunting rifles that look like military service rifles? Military service rifles that look like hunting rifles? Ban by caliber? Why or why not?

It turns into the ole, "Look at these two guns. Which one do you ban?" schpeel. All you have to do is stick an M1-Garand on the table right next to an AR-15. Now if you know what the hell your talking about, you'd know that the Garand is the only one of the two has a history as a military service rifle in multiple active war zones. The M1-Garand shoots a much larger bullet, which tends to make it more lethal. People who know guns can have a reasonable debate and probably disagree all day about which one to ban, but the M1-Garand wins the argument in terms of sheer lethality. Meanwhile, your typical city Democrat who has never even held a gun in their life will take one look and say, "Ban the AR-15, it looks scarier!" In fact, there's plenty of people that are clueless enough to tell you to ban an M-16 style BB-gun over a 30-06 hunting rifle.

The average person advocating for banning guns tend to know very little about guns, and if they're being honest, they just want all guns banned.
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