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Old Today, 07:33 AM
 
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I took a look at the stats and saw that two relatively wealthy states, Maryland and Illinois have murder rates of 9.0 and 7.8 per 100,000 residents respectively. I am also shocked that Pennsylvania was so high at 5.8 per 100,000 residents.
Plenty of other gun threads. Fear threads..and all of that.

We should talk health, life span, GDP per capita, net worth, education and all the things I specified in the OP....

A lot of folks here like to make every thread turn into the same BS....instead of actually dealing in facts.

Whether we use Switzerland, MA., Denmark or many other "liberal and educated" places, the results seem to come out the same. One system works better then the other if we use the metrics associated with advanced countries and societies.

It is interesting to watch the dodges of the OP.....every excuse in the book has been used, whereas many of the same posters start the "SD vs. LA" threads and pontificate on how White Supremacy is so great...

Fact is, if we look at the world the "Supremacy" is in Asia (adherence to buddhist values, hard work and education) and also in progressive and liberal Europe and the USA. Sure, that's a general statement, but when we are discussing entire societies and millions of people we need to be general (stats).
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Old Today, 07:54 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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I ran a comparison between Louisville and Copenhagen and Copenhagen is 42% more expensive and after factoring incomes, people in Louisville have a considerably higher economic standard of living despite Denmark having had decades as a net exporter of oil and gas.
Charleston, West Virginia has 5000 square foot houses that can be had for $500k.

I am thinking that would not be possible in a comparably sized city in Denmark.
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Old Today, 08:26 AM
 
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Charleston, West Virginia has 5000 square foot houses that can be had for $500k.

I am thinking that would not be possible in a comparably sized city in Denmark.
I'm not sure whether this is being called a positive or a negative???

Around here big houses sell for much less per sf then smaller houses...same is true in a number of places.

The larger house certainly doesn't seem to help the life spans...or health/obesity. Maybe wasting stuff is bad for a human being?

Well...sure it is! That's why "traditional values" of thrift and waste-not, want-not will beat excesses in the long run...every time.

I'd certainly rather live in a 1000 sf flat in Copenhagen then in a 5,000 sf place in Charleston, WV.

But this is off-subject too. The ideals expressed in the OP is that thrift is a GOOD THING.....and that caring about equality, health care, quality of life, ownership of "the commons" and other such things create a better society...measured by accepted norms of advanced societies.

If people sit in 5,000 sf houses in Charleston and don't innovate, don't meet and plan the future of their state, don't balance their budgets and don't make things...(other than chemicals from resource extractions), they end up similar to all "oil states"...that is, worse off for not having a diversified economy and modern outlook.
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Old Today, 09:30 AM
 
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If those KY and WV deplorables wanted your liberalism, they would move to places like Baltimore, Chicago, LA

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Old Today, 09:37 AM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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The poorest regions of Appalachian KY and WV had a mass exodus of literally millions of people. Including my parents. Those left behind are mostly are less motivated by material wealth or have skills or work ethic that would make them less employable elsewhere. Also they are very traditional, they seek to live just like their parents and grandparents rather than innovate.
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Old Today, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Washington State
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Charleston, West Virginia has 5000 square foot houses that can be had for $500k.

I am thinking that would not be possible in a comparably sized city in Denmark.
It wouldn't be possible in Denmark. I have no problem with Denmark, there system works great for them fuelled partially by being a net oil and gas exporter for decades and smart and hard working population. If you put 300 million Nordics in the USA, we would have a higher standard of living than we do now.
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Old Today, 09:44 AM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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Re poor health in KY / WV... at one time it had very high life expectancy. Most of my ancestors lived to be 80 to 100 before hospitals. They ate fresh local foods and had physically demanding jobs. Then came processed foods and the physical jobs were automated. There are few parks in rural areas to exercise. I think the processed foods became staples during the Depression and healthy food culture was lost.
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Old Today, 09:49 AM
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Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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If those KY and WV deplorables wanted your liberalism, they would move to places like Baltimore, Chicago, LA

Actually outmigration in WV is high. They’ve been losing population for decades.

https://www.register-herald.com/news...9c680ba76.html

If it wasn’t for the eastern panhandle counties, which are basically D.C. suburbs, the outmigration rate would be catastrophic.

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Old Today, 09:51 AM
 
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If those KY and WV deplorables wanted your liberalism, they would move to places like Baltimore, Chicago, LA

Those KY and WV deplorables embrace liberalism in the form of all the welfare and disability benefits they collect. Taxpayers end up subsidizing their choice to live in a rural area with scarce jobs. So they don't need to move to Baltimore, Chicago, or LA to experience the primary benefits of liberalism.
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Old Today, 09:52 AM
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Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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Re poor health in KY / WV... at one time it had very high life expectancy. Most of my ancestors lived to be 80 to 100 before hospitals. They ate fresh local foods and had physically demanding jobs. Then came processed foods and the physical jobs were automated. There are few parks in rural areas to exercise. I think the processed foods became staples during the Depression and healthy food culture was lost.
WV has a pile of parks, trails, forests, country roads and walkable space.

I would often go to the Mon Forest and hike. The only people I met on the trail were from out of state.

A lot of WV folks just don’t exercise, trust me.
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