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Old Today, 09:35 PM
 
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First of all. Cost of living and tax rates are much lower in Kentucky and WV than in Denmark. It’s alot easier to “make it” in those states as an average working class person than it is anywhere in Denmark. Home and business ownership rates are also higher. Taxes aside if you look at average purchasing power Denmark, Kentucky, and West Virginia are all about the same here’s an anti-trump article explaining, and this was before US growth accelerated in those states post 2016 election: US GDP per capita by state vs. European countries and Japan, Korea, Mexico and China and some lessons for The Donald - AEI Since this article was published West Virginia has led the entire country in growth.

The main difference is that the Danish government is FAR more coercive. For example the obesity rates are lower and health is better because the Danish government micro manages their lives. A lot of foods sold in the US are illegal in Denmark, much more expensive or subjected to heavy sin taxes. The Americans have far more choices and freedoms and lower costs to be able to afford the food the really want resulting in higher obesity rates. Obesity rates are a sign of wealth and food abundance.

Government spending doesn’t increase the wealth of a country at all it just moves the wealth around and more often than not stunts growth and upward mobility.
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Old Today, 09:35 PM
 
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Ah, finally - one of the posts that gets to the crux of the matter..

It's so interesting that many in this country say that it has failed....and yet, when presented with the potential solutions, they rant and rave and talk about evil democrats in some place I've never been to.

That is certainly a sign of low educational attainment....and perhaps poor healthcare.
Except Scandinavian Americans are wealthier and live longer than Scandinavians.

Denmark was quite successful before the growth of the welfare state. It actually takes successful capital states to effectively maintain a welfare state.

Thomas Sowell has written both an article an a book titled Black Rednecks and White liberals that gives an insight into why West Virginia and urban black America sucks.

West Virginia is a ****hole state.
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Old Today, 09:36 PM
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First of all. Cost of living and tax rates are much lower in Kentucky and WV than in Denmark. It’s alot easier to “make it” in those states as an average working class person than it is anywhere in Denmark. Home and business ownership rates are also higher. Taxes aside if you look at average purchasing power Denmark, Kentucky, and West Virginia are all about the same here’s an anti-trump article explaining, and this was before US growth accelerated in those states post 2016 election: US GDP per capita by state vs. European countries and Japan, Korea, Mexico and China and some lessons for The Donald - AEI Since this article was published West Virginia has led the entire country in growth.

The main difference is that the Danish government is FAR more coercive. For example the obesity rates are lower and health is better because the Danish government micro manages their lives. A lot of foods sold in the US are illegal in Denmark, much more expensive or subjected to heavy sin taxes. The Americans have far more choices and freedoms and lower costs to be able to afford the food the really want.

Government spending doesn’t increase the wealth of a country at all it just moves the wealth around and more often than not stunts growth and upward mobility.
So, if WV and KY are taking taxpayer money in various forms, why aren't they becoming upwardly mobile?
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West Virginia and Kentucky embrace the ideology of American conservatism, which doesn't believe in quality public education and healthcare access to all citizens regardless of income, job, or employment status. Of course, they're some of the worst places in the first world.
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Would they? Or would there be surrounded by more available jobs? Perhaps have gone to school? I don't think diversity has anything to do with it whatsoever. They live in very white areas now and things aren't so great. What does diversity have to do with it?
There would be more opportunities probably and some would benefit, but as many or more would fall through the cracks. Every big, supposedly prosperous liberal locality has failure and poverty. Just look at California. The diversity would be a factor in that they would be around more people economically depressed and culturally different from them and who they don't click with.
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West Virginia and Kentucky embrace the ideology of American conservatism, which doesn't believe in quality public education and healthcare access to all citizens regardless of income, job, or employment status. Of course, they're some of the worst places in the first world.
The ones on Disability get Medicare and in Kentucky, they get KYnect, which is Obamacare.
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Old Today, 09:40 PM
 
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First of all. Cost of living and tax rates are much lower in Kentucky and WV than in Denmark. It’s alot easier to “make it” in those states as an average working class person than it is anywhere in Denmark. Home and business ownership rates are also higher. Taxes aside if you look at average purchasing power Denmark, Kentucky, and West Virginia are all about the same here’s an anti-trump article explaining, and this was before US growth accelerated in those states post 2016 election: US GDP per capita by state vs. European countries and Japan, Korea, Mexico and China and some lessons for The Donald - AEI Since this article was published West Virginia has led the entire country in growth.

The main difference is that the Danish government is FAR more coercive. For example the obesity rates are lower and health is better because the Danish government micro manages their lives. A lot of foods sold in the US are illegal in Denmark, much more expensive or subjected to heavy sin taxes. The Americans have far more choices and freedoms and lower costs to be able to afford the food the really want.

Government spending doesn’t increase the wealth of a country at all it just moves the wealth around and more often than not stunts growth and upward mobility.
Need to see a link on that one boss.
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Old Today, 09:43 PM
 
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Bud, you serious? West Virginia is two different things: rural mountains and Rust Belt. The former was never anything that produced wealth, and the latter produced wealth until the U.S. steel industry collapsed.

These houses are in Wheeling:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapli...n_Wheeling.jpg

There used to be some money there. But that was then.
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Old Today, 09:43 PM
 
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Absurd comparison.

Why compare one of the worst performing states to an entire country?

Can we do USA vs Denmark?
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Here is a comparison of GDP of states and countries by PPP, which factors in cost of living. US GDP per capita by state vs. European countries and Japan, Korea, Mexico and China and some lessons for The Donald - AEI

Denmark ranks 38th, tied with Missouri and approximately $2000 separating Denmark and Kentucky.
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