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Old Today, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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Its been shown to instill patriotism at an early age, so I'm all on board with it. Especially when the alternative for many seems to be a disgraceful hatred of this great nation.
Propaganda works best on the young and feeble minded.


No pledge in Canada. When I grew up it was God Save the Queen and the National Anthem before assemblies in Elementary. Nothing after that.
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Old Today, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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When I was a youngster in grade school, some of our teachers were World War II vets. They were pretty no-nonsense about patriotism. Must have been the whole "fighting Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan" thing.i
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Old Today, 08:36 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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I went to elementary and middle school in the rural south. The Lords Prayer was recited every morning.
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Old Today, 10:22 AM
 
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No prayer was said in my public schools in texas when I was in K-12. I'm a boomer.

students did stand every morning and say the pledge of allegiance to the flag, which was lead by student leaders over the intercom.
I went to a Catholic school and we NEVER said a prayer. The Pledge yes.
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Old Today, 10:27 AM
 
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When I was a youngster in grade school, some of our teachers were World War II vets. They were pretty no-nonsense about patriotism. Must have been the whole "fighting Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan" thing.i

Swearing complete and utter allegiance to your country is not what I would call "patriotism".
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Old Today, 10:33 AM
 
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School prayer should be strictly voluntary. Schools should have the option of allowing students to have a time of silence/reflection/prayer if they want, but no specific time for prayer for public schools.
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Old Today, 10:35 AM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere
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I'm 59, and grew up in the rural South. When I was in grade school (public school, BTW) in the 1960's, we started every school day with the Pledge of Allegiance and a prayer. Obviously, school prayer was ruled unconstitutional in time. This was the Bible Belt of course, and everyone participated. It was just a part of life at that time.

Interestingly, I've found that some people (mainly 20- and 30-somethings, it seems) refuse to believe that such as school prayer ever happened outside of a religious school. It seems to be something that today's youngsters have trouble wrapping their minds around (which puzzles me, too).

Any of you 50-somethings (or older) ever have prayer in public school? I can't be the Lone Ranger here.
I don't know how younger people can think that prayer was never a thing in school unless they are just ignorant of history and politics. Republican activists still push the line that we need to bring prayer back to school and that it is the solution for school shootings and violence.
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Old Today, 10:36 AM
 
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School prayer should be strictly voluntary. Schools should have the option of allowing students to have a time of silence/reflection/prayer if they want, but no specific time for prayer for public schools.
Very true, the prayer was intended for Christians only and the schools did not care about other religions.
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Old Today, 10:39 AM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere
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Very true, the prayer was intended for Christians only and the schools did not care about other religions.
I think a big difference between prayer in schools back then compared to what the Christian Right wants to do today is the intent. Back then, it was more or less a tradition and it wasn't the same everywhere. More diverse parts of the country were less likely to have it than places that were more exclusively Christian. If prayer was brought back to public schools today, it would be with the primary intention of making students who aren't Christian or aren't the right kind of Christian feel excluded.
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Old Today, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Willamette Valley, Oregon
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I'm a boomer and the pledge was mandatory in school. No prayer. Being a Jehovahs Witness in those days, I sat during the pledge, no hand over heart. Pretty embarrassing at the time. I also had to be excused for all holiday parties. Good times!
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