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Old 08-21-2019, 02:28 PM
 
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The only thing I'll miss about Trump is his dotards twisting themselves into pretzels attempting to defend every moronic thing he does.
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Old 08-21-2019, 02:30 PM
 
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All this angst, chest beating and hair pulling, I doubt there was much notice when we bought the US Virgin Islands, (the Danish West Indies), from Denmark in 1917.

Of course Trump wasn't President then, democrat Woodrow Wilson was, so that was OK.
Actually, Denmark wanted to give up the islands. The USA initially didn't want to buy them. Denmark wanted to give up the islands because they were no longer profitable for producing sugar cane and it was expensive to govern the islands from Denmark. A treaty was signed between the two countries. I wouldn't have been in favor of it then either. Denmark isn't interested in selling Greenland at this point.

Something else. It's 2019. No one on this thread was born yet when that transaction took place.
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Old 08-21-2019, 02:31 PM
 
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Is Obama scoping out new places to flee to when the Spygate indictments start flying?
Mmmm, and what are these indictments again?
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Old 08-21-2019, 02:36 PM
 
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You listed two reasons that are good enough for me: The USA is bigger, also another place to travel to. Not that I couldn't travel to Greenland now, but it would be easier to anyway this way.
Those reasons are not good enough for this country. I don't care about what you want. It isn't about you. It is about this country, the USA. What is the USA getting out of it besides a travel destination? And do the people of Greenland want to be part of the USA? If the answer is no, this isn't about you. Your wishes to go to Greenland without a passport are meaningless in the much larger picture. Of course, if you don't care about the bigger picture, at least do what I would do and admit it.

And something else. This is just my opinion. I think you want Trump to buy Greenland for these reasons:

1) You think "Make America Great Again" includes building up an American Empire, similar to the British Empire.
2) You get off on annoying those who oppose Trump.
3) Greed.
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Old 08-21-2019, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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All this angst, chest beating and hair pulling, I doubt there was much notice when we bought the US Virgin Islands, (the Danish West Indies), from Denmark in 1917.

Of course Trump wasn't President then, democrat Woodrow Wilson was, so that was OK.
In 1916, during World War 1, the US threatened to occupy the islands if Denmark didn't comply. Denmark preferred a peaceful transfer, so they agreed.

https://2001-2009.state.gov/r/pa/ho/time/wwi/107293.htm

Was that okay? Hmm. Well it was a different time.
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Old 08-21-2019, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Where the mountains touch the sky
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Why would you want more? What is the point? What are you getting out of it besides more land area and some place to travel to? What can you get from Greenland that you can't get from Alaska?
Lots of rare earth metals like thorium used in superconductor research for alternative energy and other elements used in computer manufacturing and strategic metals like barium.

Its actually very rich in natural resources. They'd be expensive to mine, and need a high degree of technology, but could be history changing with proper research and application of newly developed technologies that could come from having a good source of material available.

Having unfettered access to the ice sheet could also provide valuable information on cyclic climate changes that the earth has always gone through to compare with any modern natural fluctuations we may be going through. Having a full time permanent research facility with US funding could have wide ranging impact.

Not to mention the strategic importance for protecting the sea lanes between the US and Europe.

Greenland is much more than a frozen rock in the North Atlantic.
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Old 08-21-2019, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Near Falls Lake
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What is there to get about Trump? Why else would a President think about buying a territory from another country, especially when the country involved isn't interested in selling?

I do get you. The unhappier so-called "libs" are, the happier you are. Prove me wrong.
You are aware that Truman also tried to purchase Greenland....right?
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Old 08-21-2019, 02:40 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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The only thing I'll miss about Trump is his dotards twisting themselves into pretzels attempting to defend every moronic thing he does.

The bad thing is, when ever he is out. You wont be rid of him by long shot. He will be constantly tweeting his rhetoric on problems, how so and so handled something, calling people out and how he would of handled the issue. An erratic ego, a 70+ year old still trying to prove himself. Its sad really.
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Old 08-21-2019, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Where the mountains touch the sky
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In 1916, during World War 1, the US threatened to occupy the islands if Denmark didn't comply. Denmark preferred a peaceful transfer, so they agreed.

https://2001-2009.state.gov/r/pa/ho/time/wwi/107293.htm

Was that okay? Hmm. Well it was a different time.
One of the reasons we entered WWI was because of an intercepted offer from Germany trying to get Mexico to invade the US to keep us from entering the war on the side of France and England.
Also the US was worried Germany would annex Denmark and gain control of the strategically important islands becoming a threat in the event the US and Germany went to war, which did happen in 1917.
The US has been trying to acquire those island since the 1860s, at the same time we bought Alaska from the Russians. There was an agreement reached, but politics in the Senate scuttled the plan.

The Virgin Islands would have been strategically important in any war in the western hemisphere we may have become involved in.

Yeah, I would have supported buying those islands too.

Less bloodshed involved in purchasing instead of conquering.

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Old 08-21-2019, 02:48 PM
 
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The bad thing is, when ever he is out. You wont be rid of him by long shot. He will be constantly tweeting his rhetoric on problems, how so and so handled something, calling people out and how he would of handled the issue. An erratic ego, a 70+ year old still trying to prove himself. Its sad really.

He won't be propped up by FoxNews when he's out of office because he'll criticize the republican replacement (when that time comes) just as much as he will any Democrat. They won't stand for him tearing down their house. Anything that is a threat to his ego will be fair game. He won't play by team rules.



Side note- was in the USVI last week. Very glad the U.S. purchased them (and eventually turned a large portion of them into a national park). Beautiful spot.
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