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Old 08-21-2019, 07:34 PM
 
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But apparently Trump does since he cancelled a meeting with our ally Denmark because he was ignorant enough to think they could sell Greenland.
Greenland is self-governing. Trump is embarrassing for the United States. It was the first diplomatic visit between the Denmark and the states in 2 decades. Well after preparations were underway, he cancelled.
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Old 08-21-2019, 07:38 PM
 
Location: the Sticks
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Trump said he cancelled it over Denmarks refusal to discuss selling Greenland. Trump said it. You should know this before discussing the matter or why chime in?
LOL to be fair, why does Denmark even matter to anyone except people from Denmark and maybe the EU?

Trump is an idiot, but offending Denmark isn't that big of a deal. I like Denmark. In fact I like all the Scandinavian countries, I just don't see them as a big deal by any measure. Love visiting tho.

Trump is like that ADHD kid. He thinks it he says it. He thinks it he tries to do it. It would be embarrassing but to be fair, he followed an apologist war monger, a dim witted puppet before Obama, and a fellow sexual predator before GWB. It's been down hill for a long time.
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Old 08-21-2019, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Where the mountains touch the sky
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Trump said he cancelled it over Denmarks refusal to discuss selling Greenland. Trump said it. You should know this before discussing the matter or why chime in?
Because I haven't seen that, so except for what MSM has put out, I'd like the information without their cherrypicking and spin.

What is being discussed here is a real estate proposal, not President Trump's social calendar. As such, I've been discussing historic land purchases which are relevant to the proposal to buy Greenland from Denmark.

I don't get into the vitriolic hatred some people have for the President since you cannot use logic to combat an emotion.

So, I don't care why he cancelled. Doesn't matter to me.

I don't care if we do or don't buy Greenland, although I can see why it could be beneficial to all involved parties, my thoughts on the matter won't influence the matter, so why get excited about it?
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Old 08-21-2019, 07:48 PM
 
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LOL to be fair, why does Denmark even matter to anyone except people from Denmark and maybe the EU?

Trump is an idiot, but offending Denmark isn't that big of a deal. I like Denmark. In fact I like all the Scandinavian countries, I just don't see them as a big deal by any measure. Love visiting tho.

Trump is like that ADHD kid. He thinks it he says it. He thinks it he tries to do it. It would be embarrassing but to be fair, he followed an apologist war monger, a dim witted puppet before Obama, and a fellow sexual predator before GWB. It's been down hill for a long time.
Greenland is part of Denmark in the same way that Canada is part of England. The land is strategic in the Arctic, especially in relation to Russia threat.

Offending EU countries, when Russia is an ongoing concern, concerns all of the EU. Sadly, this latest stunt also removes all doubt that he does not have all his marbles.
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Old 08-21-2019, 07:52 PM
 
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Because I haven't seen that, so except for what MSM has put out, I'd like the information without their cherrypicking and spin.

What is being discussed here is a real estate proposal, not President Trump's social calendar. As such, I've been discussing historic land purchases which are relevant to the proposal to buy Greenland from Denmark.

I don't get into the vitriolic hatred some people have for the President since you cannot use logic to combat an emotion.

So, I don't care why he cancelled. Doesn't matter to me.

I don't care if we do or don't buy Greenland, although I can see why it could be beneficial to all involved parties, my thoughts on the matter won't influence the matter, so why get excited about it?
Trump is trying to make a real estate deal as a private interest, not a president - big shiny buildings with his name at the top. The funny thing is that he talked to the wrong prime minister about an idea that has no basis in reality.

When people laughed (called him absurd) he stomped his feet, proclaimed that he is "the chosen one," and cancelled dinner with the Queen.

Okay. That's normal in the states. Everyone knows that. It's not normal in the rest of the world.
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Old 08-21-2019, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Where the mountains touch the sky
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Trump is trying to make a real estate deal as a private interest, not a president - big shiny buildings with his name at the top. The funny thing is that he talked to the wrong prime minister about an idea that has no basis in reality.

When people laughed (called him absurd) he stomped his feet, proclaimed that he is "the chosen one," and cancelled dinner with the Queen.

Okay. That's normal in the states. Everyone knows that. It's not normal in the rest of the world.
As President, the deal wouldn't be a private matter, so that is irrelevant to the issue. If in 5 years when he leaves office, if as a private citizen he wants to build something in Greenland and put his name on it, go for it.

Greenland is part of the Danish protectorate as is Iceland from a thousand years ago when Nordic explorers settled there, so speaking to Denmark is proper. We also spoke to them when we established bases there in WWII and the Cold War.

The chosen one remark was made in reference to China, so again, not relevant to this discussion.

This has been a fun intellectual exercise looking at an idea floated by the President. We've spent some time arguing over something that won't happen with the only concrete results established being verification of your extreme dislike of the President.

This was fun, but I have work in the morning, so good night and pleasant dreams.
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Old 08-21-2019, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Trump said he cancelled it over Denmarks refusal to discuss selling Greenland. Trump said it. You should know this before discussing the matter or why chime in?
And here you are, completely losing your **** over it. In fact, the entire lunatic lib fringe is. Meanwhile, Trump is now free to focus on getting work done while you stare at the shiny object he is holding up. Thanks for falling for it..yet again
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Old 08-21-2019, 08:57 PM
 
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And here you are, completely losing your **** over it. In fact, the entire lunatic lib fringe is. Meanwhile, Trump is now free to focus on getting work done while you stare at the shiny object he is holding up. Thanks for falling for it..yet again
Are republicans not a bit concerned that the leader thinks that countries can be bought and sold by third parties in 2019, or that he cancels state visits because he is absurd?
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Old 08-21-2019, 09:07 PM
 
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As President, the deal wouldn't be a private matter, so that is irrelevant to the issue. If in 5 years when he leaves office, if as a private citizen he wants to build something in Greenland and put his name on it, go for it.

Greenland is part of the Danish protectorate as is Iceland from a thousand years ago when Nordic explorers settled there, so speaking to Denmark is proper. We also spoke to them when we established bases there in WWII and the Cold War.

The chosen one remark was made in reference to China, so again, not relevant to this discussion.

This has been a fun intellectual exercise looking at an idea floated by the President. We've spent some time arguing over something that won't happen with the only concrete results established being verification of your extreme dislike of the President.

This was fun, but I have work in the morning, so good night and pleasant dreams.
Trump could have saved himself some embarrassment if he had explored the possibility of buying Greenland through diplomatic channels. But instead he puts on a big show acting like he's a big deal maker, has his ridiculous proposal rejected out of hand, looks like a fool on the world stage, then has a hissy fit. Pitiful.
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Old 08-21-2019, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Trump could have saved himself some embarrassment if he had explored the possibility of buying Greenland through diplomatic channels. But instead he puts on a big show acting like he's a big deal maker, has his ridiculous proposal rejected out of hand, looks like a fool on the world stage, then has a hissy fit. Pitiful.
This "Greenland gone bad deal" for trump reminds me of how one of my sons behaved once when he was three years old. My son and I were playing a game of "Candy Land" and by chance, I picked the Ice Princess card. My son responded by flipping up the game board and storming off.
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