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View Poll Results: Opinion on illegal immigration/border security
Open up the border, let them all in, drugs/human trafficking as well. 1 0.51%
Secure the border, deport the "bad hombre's", offer path to citizenship for balance 65 33.33%
Secure the border, deport all illegals. 119 61.03%
Other, explain in response. 10 5.13%
Voters: 195. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-20-2019, 06:29 AM
 
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Deport everyone for whom it is the case, that all eight great-grandparents were born in the United States.
WTH are you talking about? If one is born in this country to citizen or legal immigrant parents why should they be deported?
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Old 08-20-2019, 09:11 AM
 
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Deport everyone for whom it is the case, that all eight great-grandparents were born in the United States.
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WTH are you talking about? If one is born in this country to citizen or legal immigrant parents why should they be deported?
Do you really want an honest answer to that question?
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Old 08-20-2019, 10:21 AM
 
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#3 for me.
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Old 08-20-2019, 10:54 AM
 
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WTH are you talking about? If one is born in this country to citizen or legal immigrant parents why should they be deported?
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Do you really want an honest answer to that question?
Should I offer one?
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Old 08-20-2019, 03:25 PM
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I voted #2, but my druthers would change 'path to citizenship' to 'path to legal status.' Citizenship really should be reserved for those who apply and enter legally. That is how it is done in Norway.
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Old 08-20-2019, 04:29 PM
 
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I voted #2, but my druthers would change 'path to citizenship' to 'path to legal status.' Citizenship really should be reserved for those who apply and enter legally. That is how it is done in Norway.
Even a path to legal status starts in the immigrants homeland, not on our soil. Why should we reward those who thumbed their noses at our immigration laws and reward them with legalization? It's a slap in the fact to those who waited patiently in their own countries and followed the legal process from there. We don't need these illegals either. Americans need their jobs back and legalization of illegal aliens negates our sane annual quotas for legal immigration. How does it alleviate the overcrowded conditions in our schools, hospitals, roads and neighborhoods and the further depletion of our natural and social resources by legalizing millions of illegal aliens? Why have immigration laws at all if all we are going to do is legalize them for violating them? Are we to legalize and further reward them for committing felony ID theft and/or tax evasion?
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Old 08-20-2019, 04:42 PM
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Even a path to legal status starts in the immigrants homeland, not on our soil. Why should we reward those who thumbed their noses at our immigration laws and reward them with legalization? It's a slap in the fact to those who waited patiently in their own countries and followed the legal process from there. We don't need these illegals either. Americans need their jobs back and legalization of illegal aliens negates our sane annual quotas for legal immigration. How does it alleviate the overcrowded conditions in our schools, hospitals, roads and neighborhoods and the further depletion of our natural and social resources by legalizing millions of illegal aliens? Why have immigration laws at all if all we are going to do is legalize them for violating them? Are we to legalize and further reward them for committing felony ID theft and/or tax evasion?
What do you do with someone who was brought across the border as an infant, grew up in the US, does not speak Spanish, and knows nothing of Mexico. And (say) grows up to be a straight A student, pre-med, and all around solid (non) citizen? Send her back to Mexico? Seriously?
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Old 08-20-2019, 04:56 PM
 
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I would say #2 is too lenient, and #3 is too harsh, although I think the whole thing about securing the Southern border is a waste of energy due to visa overstays and whatnot. So I guess I'm going to say #4 (Other.)

I think we need to do the following:
-Deport the illegal/undocumented immigrants with criminal records. Others should self-deport.
-Get serious about enforcing rules about companies hiring illegal/undocumented immigrants. I'm beyond furious that hard working Americans were replaced with illegal/undocumented immigrants because the former wanted humane working conditions, in the recent ICE raid in Mississippi for example. We need to get serious about labor issues, and stop trying to fight unionization so much. This will cut down on illegal/undocumented immigrants being able to find work.
-It's far too difficult to get low skill immigrant labor legally. Sometimes these workers are needed. Make it much easier for seasonal workers and other such laborers from other countries to work in the US.
-I'm good with DACA, because it isn't the kids' fault.
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Old 08-20-2019, 05:05 PM
 
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What do you do with someone who was brought across the border as an infant, grew up in the US, does not speak Spanish, and knows nothing of Mexico. And (say) grows up to be a straight A student, pre-med, and all around solid (non) citizen? Send her back to Mexico? Seriously?
Yes send her back to her family and homeland in Mexico. She sounds exactly what Mexico needs more of.
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Old 08-20-2019, 05:08 PM
 
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The heartless band is playing their tune in this thread.
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