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Old 08-17-2019, 05:38 AM
 
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Man Made Climate Change is NOT an Environmental issue for the LEFT. It is a Economic, and Social issue designed to achieve the socialist goals the LEFT is unable to attain through other means. Ultimately, it means the further consolidation of wealth and power to the few elite through more regulation, control and hence dependency of the populace.

The useful idiots think they are "saving the planet". Their egos are being used against them to feel self important, and self righteous. It is a brilliant strategy by the LEFT if you think about it. Our own nature to want to feel relevant and important is being used against us.


These idiots are actually claiming Boyle's law is not real!


For those of you who have never taken physics, here is an explanation of Boyle's Law at the elementary school level. Perhaps you will understand it.


The laws of physics have not been eliminated, simply due to the lunacy of AGW.


With an increase in temp, there should be an accompanying change in pressure- there is not.
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Old 08-17-2019, 05:40 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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So you are saying that the SIZE of the earth's atmosphere changed?

WHAT constraint would you have us believe prevents that from happening?


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The gas law is often shown and used to calculate temperature changes at certain altitudes.


If one was actually looking at HEAT (that is what the AGW crowd contends), then one would have to calculate the number of Joules of energy per cubic meter as well. However, that is never done and an estimate of this "heat" is made by temperature measurements, which is not entirely appropriate.

Boyle's law applies only to an ideal gas and makes no allowance for the great variance in moisture contained in the earth's atmosphere.
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Old 08-17-2019, 05:41 AM
 
Location: USA
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These idiots are actually claiming Boyle's law is not real!


For those of you who have never taken physics, here is an explanation of Boyle's Law at the elementary school level. Perhaps you will understand it.


The laws of physics have not been eliminated, simply due to the lunacy of AGW.


With an increase in temp, there should be an accompanying change in pressure- there is not.
They will respond buy saying that will occur in the future when temps rise more, and more. It is always 12 years out. None of Gore's predictions have come true. By now NYC should have been under water years ago. The alarmists keep moving the goal posts when their false predictions FAIL to come true.
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Old 08-17-2019, 05:51 AM
 
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WHAT constraint would you have us believe prevents that from happening?





Boyle's law applies only to an ideal gas and makes no allowance for the great variance in moisture contained in the earth's atmosphere.
I understand that it is the IDEAL GAS LAW.


However, Boyle's Law IS APPLIED to observed phenomenon in the atmosphere and atmospheric gases DO OBEY BOYLE'S LAW.


The earth's atmosphere and climate is COMPLEX, yet the warmers want to suggest that one factor, and one factor only (CO2), influences temperatures. It is lunacy beyond belief.


That being said, Boyle's law is applied, and can be applied, to observations in nature, including earth's atmosphere.


With an average increase in temperature, there should be an accompanying average increase in pressure. Yet the opposite has been observed. The laws of physics have not been suspended- lunacy does not refute the laws of physics.


So AGW cult members, tell me how in the world can average pressures go DOWN if temperatures are actually increasing?
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Old 08-17-2019, 07:32 AM
 
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These idiots are actually claiming Boyle's law is not real!


For those of you who have never taken physics, here is an explanation of Boyle's Law at the elementary school level. Perhaps you will understand it.


The laws of physics have not been eliminated, simply due to the lunacy of AGW.


With an increase in temp, there should be an accompanying change in pressure- there is not.
Don't you know that the validity of any algebraic equation is directly proportional to the degree that it supports leftist ideology. If it erodes their arguments, the expression is clearly not complicated enough.
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Old 08-17-2019, 08:17 AM
 
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For the warming fanatics it is a RELIGION.......moved far beyond numbers and logic......they now have 4th graders crying in fear that by the time they grow up the earth will be under water. Like most religions you can follow the money to figure out what's up......and the deeper the pockets the more blame assessed........if your country is broke you have nothing to worry about......on the other hand the main target is always the USA.....they tried to rope Trump into the Paris climate hoax but he knew better.....China and Russia are the biggest polluters anywhere but don't be looking for checks. Al Gore saw the perfect scam back in the 80's....I'm amazed the faithful seem to be increasing in the face of warranted skepticism and those who know it's nothing more than a POWER and MONEY grab primarily for the blue helmets in NYC........
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Old 08-17-2019, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Evidence that AGW is happening.... https://static.skepticalscience.com/...CO2-simple.png
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Old 08-17-2019, 08:43 AM
 
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Evidence that AGW has increased global temperatures 8/10th of a degree C....in 140 years....

...that's 0.0057 degrees a year > https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs...l-temperature/
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Old 08-17-2019, 09:09 AM
 
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The gas equation PV= nRT shows that with increase temperature, there is an expected increase in pressure.
This article explains why pressure alone does not define temperatures:

https://andthentheresphysics.wordpre...-temperatures/

Under your theory for every high pressure system the temperature on the surface will always be the same. Clearly it is not; in winter, a pressure of say 1020 millibars might be associated with a surface temp of 40F while in summer the same high pressure system might be 90F at the surface.
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Old 08-17-2019, 09:22 AM
 
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Everyday, EVERYDAY, since my local paper got sold and bought up they run a weather page that pushes AGW with stories about heat waves, fires, potential future global warming related melting, etc. So the hard sell is still on. If global warming was a used car I'd run, not walk away, from the dealer.
They did have an article I did somewhat agree with. They cautioned not to let the quiet hurricane season so far lull us into a false sense of security. I do agree that September and October are the more active months historically. But whats been making these storms so deadly isn't that they're more powerful( at least not usually), its that they run into blocking high pressures that stop them in their tracks. Cold fronts stop them and they turn into deluges.
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