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Old 08-18-2019, 03:41 PM
 
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Totally agree. Why did those veterans from WWII, who saw some extreme carnage and violence, manage to, comparatively speaking, get on with their lives without suffering from PTSD like many of our warriors do today?

Because in WWII, they knew their cause, our cause, was just. The warrior of today is put into impossible situations like Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, and then left to sort it all out if he or she make it home in one piece.
I got it from your first paragraph. Did I misunderstand "without suffering from PTSD"

 
Old 08-18-2019, 03:58 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Totally agree. Why did those veterans from WWII, who saw some extreme carnage and violence, manage to, comparatively speaking, get on with their lives without suffering from PTSD like many of our warriors do today?

Because in WWII, they knew their cause, our cause, was just. The warrior of today is put into impossible situations like Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, and then left to sort it all out if he or she make it home in one piece.
Like being assigned to a Sherman in Panzer country
Being stuck flying a p-40
Being told you are in first wave of D-day
Landing in a glider over Germany in the middle of the night

Almost all of these men probably thought for sure they were going to die
 
Old 08-18-2019, 04:30 PM
 
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Like being assigned to a Sherman in Panzer country
Being stuck flying a p-40
Being told you are in first wave of D-day
Landing in a glider over Germany in the middle of the night

Almost all of these men probably thought for sure they were going to die
Well the P-40 was a decent plane, but yeah against the 109's and 190's not what I would want to fly.

I can not imagine walking (running) into that wall of lead form MG-42's, artillery, and everything else they had. Don't get me started on the Shermans. How an industrial power like the U.S. could not arm our soldiers with better tanks, that late in the war was criminal.
 
Old 08-18-2019, 04:33 PM
 
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Interesting how some of the ones of that age today, need support animals, safe spaces and are offended by everything.
 
Old 08-18-2019, 04:39 PM
 
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If you had a time machine and could go back and showed the American soldiers what America would become after our "win" in WW2, most of them would have deserted.
 
Old 08-18-2019, 04:50 PM
 
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If you had a time machine and could go back and showed the American soldiers what America would become after our "win" in WW2, most of them would have deserted.
The worlds dominant superpower...
 
Old 08-18-2019, 05:01 PM
 
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If you had a time machine and could go back and showed the American soldiers what America would become after our "win" in WW2, most of them would have deserted.
Many of us from the late 60s, were totally disillusioned when we came back. So many lies were told to us.
 
Old 08-18-2019, 05:10 PM
 
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I am watching the "The Vietnam War" by Ken Burns right now. I can't believe the lies told to the public, our allies and our soldiers to keep that going. My dad was drafted in 1968 and luckily came to no harm but his older brother is still mentally scarred from his experience. I was born in the midst of it in 1970. That era of our country fascinates me. It is amazing we didn't completely crumble under our own weight during the 60s.
 
Old 08-18-2019, 06:03 PM
 
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Well the P-40 was a decent plane, but yeah against the 109's and 190's not what I would want to fly.

I can not imagine walking (running) into that wall of lead form MG-42's, artillery, and everything else they had. Don't get me started on the Shermans. How an industrial power like the U.S. could not arm our soldiers with better tanks, that late in the war was criminal.
Literally it took 5 Shermans to take down a Tiger and everyone knew they were dead. They literally could have replaced it with about any gun from a field piece we had been using just like the Axis did. We did but the 90 was late coming.
 
Old 08-18-2019, 09:10 PM
 
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Totally agree. Why did those veterans from WWII, who saw some extreme carnage and violence, manage to, comparatively speaking, get on with their lives without suffering from PTSD like many of our warriors do today?

Because in WWII, they knew their cause, our cause, was just. The warrior of today is put into impossible situations like Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, and then left to sort it all out if he or she make it home in one piece.

in wrold war two it was called battle fatigue, and many suffered from it. in world war one it was shell shock;



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSp8IyaKCs0


one of the reasons veterans of world war one, world war two, and korea dont seem to suffer as much is because when they left the war zone, they came home in a nice slow boat, for thee most part. they had time to unwind, and talk about their experiences with people that saw the same things they did. but they also got the help they needed when they got home as well.


by the time vietnam rolled around, these guys would fly home in a few hours compared to a couple of months, so no time to relax, and talk about their experiences with others who knew what happened.


instead they came home, and had to talk to someone that had no clue about the horrors of combat, and the stresses involved. its like you getting beat up and then having to talk about it to someone who has never been in a fight.
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