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Old 08-17-2019, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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States elect Presidents through the Electoral College. Not people. Someone needs a civics lesson. Also 3 million people in NYC, and L.A. should not DICTATE to the entire country.
Right, the people that continually complain about losing an election in which their candidate won a plurality of the vote are pretending to not realize that the Constitution is amendable.

All they have to do is get 3/4 of the states that will have future presidential elections decided for them by NY and CA to agree to such an arrangement.

The left wants elections decided by popular votes because they know left-leaning states can then eliminate all voter ID laws and follow California's lead in legalizing ballot harvesting.

Might as well set up polling stations in Tijuana and San Quentin.
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Old 08-17-2019, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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States elect Presidents through the Electoral College. Not people. Someone needs a civics lesson. Also 3 million people in NYC, and L.A. should not DICTATE to the entire country.
Wait! The sack of crap media kept telling us that dem EEEBIL RUSSKIES rigged the election for Trump...so why didnt Trump win the so called "popular" vote?
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Old 08-17-2019, 11:05 AM
 
Location: USA
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The majority will not consent to be ruled by the minority forever. In that, the OP is correct.
They're not. The MAJORITY of Electoral Votes elected the President. There are very good reasons that it was structured the way it was. We are a collection of STATES first. Much if not most of your government is STATE controlled. The Feds should have much less say, and in many ways they do.

States don't want to be disenfranchised by the more populous ones corruptly run by their BIG CITIES. If Hillary had lost the popular vote and won the Electoral Vote you'd be just find, because you and the rest of the Democrats are HYPOCRITES.
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Old 08-17-2019, 11:06 AM
 
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Donald Trump got crushed in the election much like George W bush but worse...far worse

Near 3 million more Americans voted for Hillary Clinton then did for Donald Trump so it's hard to take him seriously as a leader

If Donald Trump somehow regains his position after another crushing election defeat will Americans actually accept it again or will something more severe occur

I grew up internationally and always heard Americans preach preach preach about democracy

Although I am a legal American citizen
(USA born to an American father and a South African mother) I find it absolutely hilarious that we invade other countries (under the premise of bringing a democratic process to them) and talk so deeply and with such reverence for democracy yet do not practice it here at home with her very own presidential elections

"Gore won 500,000 more popular votes than Republican George W. Bush but narrowly lost in the electoral college after the Supreme Court of the United States ordered a halt to the manual recounting of disputed ballots in Florida"
https://www.britannica.com/event/Uni...ection-of-2000

"More Americans voted for Hillary Clinton than any other losing presidential candidate in US history.
The Democrat outpaced President-elect Donald Trump by almost 2.9 million votes, with 65,844,954 (48.2%) to his 62,979,879 (46.1%)"
https://www-m.cnn.com/2016/12/21/pol...kduckgo.com%2F

PS

I only lived in South Africa for 7 years but I can remember the United States going on and on about how important it was to bring a democratic election to our country...

Today the black government is planning on seizing all white owned land and sanctioning the murders of farmers... ( just like Rhodesia)

So even though democracy has had a hideous impact on my people I find it the epitome of hypocrisy that the United States doesn't respect democracy during its presidential election

.. all the blacks on my grandfather's Farm were paid employees unlike in the USA

A democratic election is a great way to destroy a colonial power... perhaps if South Africans would have murdered all the natives and used slaves to build the country we would have had a better shot at survival

does that process sound familiar?
Several paragraphs to say ..."I have no clue how America elects a president!" LOL. Bravo.
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Old 08-17-2019, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Central Illinois -
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#MAGAWalkAway
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Old 08-17-2019, 11:13 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Boer View Post
Donald Trump got crushed in the election much like George W bush but worse...far worse

Near 3 million more Americans voted for Hillary Clinton then did for Donald Trump so it's hard to take him seriously as a leader

If Donald Trump somehow regains his position after another crushing election defeat will Americans actually accept it again or will something more severe occur

I grew up internationally and always heard Americans preach preach preach about democracy

Although I am a legal American citizen
(USA born to an American father and a South African mother) I find it absolutely hilarious that we invade other countries (under the premise of bringing a democratic process to them) and talk so deeply and with such reverence for democracy yet do not practice it here at home with her very own presidential elections

"Gore won 500,000 more popular votes than Republican George W. Bush but narrowly lost in the electoral college after the Supreme Court of the United States ordered a halt to the manual recounting of disputed ballots in Florida"
https://www.britannica.com/event/Uni...ection-of-2000

"More Americans voted for Hillary Clinton than any other losing presidential candidate in US history.
The Democrat outpaced President-elect Donald Trump by almost 2.9 million votes, with 65,844,954 (48.2%) to his 62,979,879 (46.1%)"
https://www-m.cnn.com/2016/12/21/pol...kduckgo.com%2F

PS

I only lived in South Africa for 7 years but I can remember the United States going on and on about how important it was to bring a democratic election to our country...

Today the black government is planning on seizing all white owned land and sanctioning the murders of farmers... ( just like Rhodesia)

So even though democracy has had a hideous impact on my people I find it the epitome of hypocrisy that the United States doesn't respect democracy during its presidential election

.. all the blacks on my grandfather's Farm were paid employees unlike in the USA

A democratic election is a great way to destroy a colonial power... perhaps if South Africans would have murdered all the natives and used slaves to build the country we would have had a better shot at survival

does that process sound familiar?
You do know how the electoral college works, right?
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Old 08-17-2019, 11:13 AM
 
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#MAGAWalkAway
#NotaRealThing
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Old 08-17-2019, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Northwest Peninsula
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Wait! The sack of crap media kept telling us that dem EEEBIL RUSSKIES rigged the election for Trump...so why didnt Trump win the so called "popular" vote?

Good point...Maybe Hillary won the popular vote with the aide of the Russians.
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Old 08-17-2019, 11:27 AM
 
Location: United States
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If Donald Trump somehow regains his position after another crushing election defeat will Americans actually accept it again or will something more severe occur
Are you suggesting that people overthrow the US government because their candidate lost an election?

How exactly would that be democracy?
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Old 08-17-2019, 11:59 AM
 
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I am painfully aware that the Electoral College defeats democracy

This is hilarious in that America literally goes to war under the preface that they are going to bring democracy to a country when they don't practice it here at home in our presidential election ( pretty suspicious that that is the only election that is not democratic)

Thanks for forcing democracy on us in South Africa worked out great

I'm not suggesting that the people burn down the White House or anything crazy like that but I wouldn't be shocked if something crazy happened...

disregard the majorities will and you will suffer the consequences in a long run... ask a South African
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