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Old Yesterday, 09:41 PM
 
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Swing
Miss
Faceplant

Your talking to a 275lb man with a history in law enforcement, bar security and MMA cagefightng

Curious how you dodge the questions and try to insult me by calling me female

All the other peanuts have abandoned you

try to fight for really fake President Trump with ACTUAL facts or links

#buttcrushed#

reading is fundamental as i have advocated for states rights for years on this forum

#spin fail#
Seriously?

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I can tell it’s going to be a rough 6 more years for you. Reality just hasn’t sunk in yet.
+1.
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Old Yesterday, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Originally Posted by Quick Enough View Post
The Truth

The mayor
of Livermore California explains Trump’s popularity and success. This is perhaps the best explanation for Trump's popularity ....

Marshall
Kamena is a registered Democrat and was elected mayor of Livermore, CA. He
ran on the democratic ticket as he knew a Bay Area city would never vote for a Republican. He
is as conservative as they come. He wrote the following:



Trump’s
'lack of decorum, dignity, and statesmanship'


By Marshall Kamena, Mayor of Livermore, CA.



My Leftist
friends (as well as many ardent #NeverTrumpers) constantly ask me if I’m not bothered by Donald Trump’s lack of decorum. They
ask if I don’t think his tweets are “beneath the dignity of the office.”


Here’s my
answer: We Right-thinking people have tried dignity. There could not have
been a man of more quiet dignity than George W. Bush as he suffered the outrageous lies and politically motivated hatreds that undermined his presidency.


We tried
statesmanship.


Could there
be another human being on this earth who so desperately prized “collegiality” as John McCain?


We tried
propriety – has there been a nicer human being ever than Mitt Romney?


And the results
were always the same. This is because, while we were playing by the rules
of dignity, collegiality and propriety, the Left has been, for the past 60 years, engaged in a knife fight where the only rules are those of Saul Alinsky and the Chicago mob.


I don’t find
anything “dignified,” “collegial,” or “proper” about Barack Obama’s lying about what went down on the streets of Ferguson in order to ramp up racial hatreds because racial hatreds serve the Democratic Party.


I don’t see
anything “dignified” in lying about the deaths of four Americans in Benghazi and imprisoning an innocent filmmaker to cover your tracks.


I don’t see
anything “statesman-like” in weaponizing the IRS to be used to destroy your political opponents and any dissent.


Yes, Obama
was “articulate” and “polished” but in no way was he in the least bit “dignified,” “collegial,” or “proper.”


The Left
has been engaged in a war against America since the rise of the Children of the ‘60s. To
them, it has been an all-out war where nothing is held sacred and nothing is seen as beyond the pale. It
has been a war they’ve fought with violence, the threat of violence, demagoguery and lies from day one – the violent take-over of the universities – till today.


The problem
is that, through these years, the Left has been the only side fighting this war. While
the Left has been taking a knife to anyone who stands in their way, the Right has continued to act with dignity, collegiality and propriety.


With Donald
Trump, this all has come to an end. Donald Trump is America ’s first wartime
president in the Culture War.


During wartime,
things like “dignity” and “collegiality” simply aren’t the most essential qualities one looks for in their warriors. Ulysses Grant was a drunk whose behavior in peacetime might well have seen him drummed out of the Army for conduct unbecoming.


Had Abraham
Lincoln applied the peacetime rules of propriety and booted Grant, the Democrats might well still be holding their slaves today.


Lincoln rightly
recognized that, “I cannot spare this man. He fights.”


General George
Patton was vulgar-talking. In peacetime, this might have seen him stripped
of rank, but had Franklin Roosevelt applied the normal rules of decorum then, Hitler and the Socialists would barely be five decades into their thousand-year Reich.


Trump is
fighting. And what’s particularly delicious is that, like Patton standing
over the battlefield as his tanks obliterated Rommel’s, he’s shouting, “You magnificent bastards, I read your book!”


That is just
the icing on the cake, but it’s wonderful to see that not only is Trump fighting, he’s defeating the Left using their own tactics. That
book is Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals – a book so essential to the Liberals’ war against America that it is and was the playbook for the entire Obama administration and the subject of Hillary Clinton’s senior thesis.


It is a book
of such pure evil that, just as the rest of us would dedicate our book to those we most love or those to whom we are most indebted, Alinsky dedicated his book to Lucifer.


Trump’s tweets
may seem rash and unconsidered but in reality, he is doing exactly what Alinsky suggested his followers do. First, instead of going after “the fake media” — and they are so fake that they have literally gotten every single significant story of the past 60
years not just wrong, but diametrically opposed to the truth, from the Tet Offensive to Benghazi, to what really happened on the streets of Ferguson, Missouri — Trump isolated CNN. He
made it personal.


Then, just
as Alinsky suggests, he employs ridicule which Alinsky described as “the most powerful weapon of all.” ...
Most importantly, Trump’s tweets have put CNN in an untenable and unwinnable position. ...
They need to respond.


This leaves
them with only two choices. They can either “go high” (as Hillary would
disingenuously declare of herself and the fake news would disingenuously report as the truth) and begin to honestly and accurately report the news or they can double-down on their usual tactics and hope to defeat Trump with twice their usual hysteria and demagoguery. The
problem for CNN (et al.) with the former is that, if they were to start honestly reporting the news, that would be the end of the Democratic Party they serve. It
is nothing but the incessant use of fake news (read: propaganda) that keeps the Left alive.


Imagine,
for example, if CNN had honestly and accurately reported then-candidate Barack Obama’s close ties to foreign terrorists (Rashid Khalidi), domestic terrorists (William Ayers & Bernardine Dohrn), the mafia (Tony Rezko) or the true evils of his spiritual mentor,
Jeremiah Wright’s church.


Imagine if
they had honestly and accurately conveyed the evils of the Obama administration’s weaponizing of the IRS to be used against their political opponents, or his running of guns to the Mexican cartels, or the truth about the murder of Ambassador Christopher Stevens
and the Obama administration’s cover-up.


So, to my
friends on the Left — and the #NeverTrumpers as well — do I wish we lived in a time when our president could be “collegial” and “dignified” and “proper”? Of
course I do.


These aren’t
those times. This is war. And
it’s a war that the Left has been fighting without opposition for the past 50 years.


So, say anything
you want about this president - I get it - he can be vulgar, he can be crude, he can be undignified at times. I
don’t care. I can’t spare this man. He
fights for America!

The above was wrongly attributed: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/he-fights-trump/
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Old Yesterday, 09:54 PM
 
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You know that Boris Johnson was just elected PM by receiving a total of 92,153 votes. The UK has a population of 67 million.



Angela Merkel received a total of 75,000 people's votes in her last election. Germany has a population of around 83 million people.


Justin Tradeau received a total of 26,361 people's votes in his last election. Canada has a population of 36 million.





Yeah, Trump's election is undemocratic.







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Originally Posted by Boer View Post
Donald Trump got crushed in the election much like George W bush but worse...far worse

Near 3 million more Americans voted for Hillary Clinton then did for Donald Trump so it's hard to take him seriously as a leader

If Donald Trump somehow regains his position after another crushing election defeat will Americans actually accept it again or will something more severe occur

I grew up internationally and always heard Americans preach preach preach about democracy

Although I am a legal American citizen
(USA born to an American father and a South African mother) I find it absolutely hilarious that we invade other countries (under the premise of bringing a democratic process to them) and talk so deeply and with such reverence for democracy yet do not practice it here at home with her very own presidential elections

"Gore won 500,000 more popular votes than Republican George W. Bush but narrowly lost in the electoral college after the Supreme Court of the United States ordered a halt to the manual recounting of disputed ballots in Florida"
https://www.britannica.com/event/Uni...ection-of-2000

"More Americans voted for Hillary Clinton than any other losing presidential candidate in US history.
The Democrat outpaced President-elect Donald Trump by almost 2.9 million votes, with 65,844,954 (48.2%) to his 62,979,879 (46.1%)"
https://www-m.cnn.com/2016/12/21/pol...kduckgo.com%2F

PS

I only lived in South Africa for 7 years but I can remember the United States going on and on about how important it was to bring a democratic election to our country...

Today the black government is planning on seizing all white owned land and sanctioning the murders of farmers... ( just like Rhodesia)

So even though democracy has had a hideous impact on my people I find it the epitome of hypocrisy that the United States doesn't respect democracy during its presidential election

.. all the blacks on my grandfather's Farm were paid employees unlike in the USA

A democratic election is a great way to destroy a colonial power... perhaps if South Africans would have murdered all the natives and used slaves to build the country we would have had a better shot at survival

does that process sound familiar?
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Old Today, 06:53 AM
 
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So where do you live now? If the USA, why did you choose it over SA? It seems there must be something that appealed to you about the USA if you had a choice, but decided to live here instead of there? This is a serious question, not a troll. I am curious what factors determined your choice of where to live.
My father is American and he knew SouthAfrica was going to implode

I am an American who is racially South African... (born in the USA)

I only lived there 7 years

I was born in the 70ties (when america was great because we had labor unions)

Btw...
thanks for the democracy in South Africa. ..you should try it sometime
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Old Today, 06:58 AM
 
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I think the bigger question here is "u mad bro?"
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Old Today, 07:07 AM
 
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liberals be like:

"we love democracy! the people have spoken. donald trump was not the popular choice. he's a fraud. we live in a democracy, and we must obey the will of the people."

also liberals in 2008 when the people voted for prop 8, which said marriage was between a man and a woman, and received 52.4% support.

"we now hate democracy because it's mean. racism. fascist. misogyny. because it's so mean, we are now going to freak out and lose our minds until democracy is overturned."

and liberals wonder why no one takes them seriously anymore. the only reason liberals and democrats ever win anything is because the rest of the country just wants you to shut the f up and stop all your whining and protesting. it's like calming a child.

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Old Today, 01:10 PM
 
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WRONG. A huge area of red quite overwhelmingly dominated the results of the 2016 election.
You mean a huge number of states. That is exactly what is supposed to happen. I know you would rather see a few large liberal cities pick the president, but he is supposed to represent the majority of the states, not the concentrated masses.
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Old Today, 01:18 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Boer View Post
My father is American and he knew SouthAfrica was going to implode

I am an American who is racially South African... (born in the USA)

I only lived there 7 years

I was born in the 70ties (when america was great because we had labor unions)

Btw...
thanks for the democracy in South Africa. ..you should try it sometime

I am always curious about people who choose to live in one area or another. Thanks for the civil answer, and I think I understand better now. It sounds like your stronger life ties were here and the politics may not have been the deciding factor either way.


As to democracy in SA, my understanding is that the transition from Apartheid to the current régime has not been that good for the nation. I think it went from one bad government to another, but I have not lived there and may be wrong on that one.


Anyway, I always respect any person's opinion as long as they show me the same respect, and look forward to some more friendly discussion.
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Old Today, 03:17 PM
 
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I am always curious about people who choose to live in one area or another. Thanks for the civil answer, and I think I understand better now. It sounds like your stronger life ties were here and the politics may not have been the deciding factor either way.


As to democracy in SA, my understanding is that the transition from Apartheid to the current régime has not been that good for the nation. I think it went from one bad government to another, but I have not lived there and may be wrong on that one.


Anyway, I always respect any person's opinion as long as they show me the same respect, and look forward to some more friendly discussion.

It is completely true that democracy has been a disaster for the white South African people however in the long run it'll be a good thing because the people of South Africa are now 100% culpable for the bloodthirsty Savages they elected

as the country descends into a third-world craphole like Zimbabwe people will realize that those people got exactly what they deserved

All the international investors and businesses will slowly but surely pull out and relegate the South African people to their fate

Believe it or not I used to be a reggae DJ in my youth and these people would rather die in poverty while being ruled by their own race under a democratic system than live in relative peace and prosperity while being ruled by another race
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