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Old 08-22-2019, 08:13 PM
 
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I don't see it. Of course, there are posters that claim the Democrats are anti-Semitic, however right-wing terrorism has grown in the country, and Jews are big targets for this group.
For the first time in my entire 60+ years I see the possibility of a Trumpie shooting up Jews (again...or again and again) as a real thing. That's a sad statement because for all of my life previous I could honestly say anti-semitism was pretty much gone from this country (or at least my universe...and I get around a bit)...

Trump can put a feather in his cap. He made America Hate Jews Again.

I predict 80%, a new high, vote against him. We can also use this Second Coming thing with Evangelicals to prove blasphemy...a nice commercial or FB ads targeting them and doing some quick porn and butt grabbing shots and all may swing some decent Christians.

Maybe I can do marketing for the Dem candidate!
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Old 08-23-2019, 01:57 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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Through out history, there seems to be a high percentage of Jewish people voting for the Democratic Party.

My family is split up by many Republican Jews and some liberal Jewish people.

My direct family members always voted for a Conservative.

Many Jewish people I spoke with in the past were democrats, but now I have seen a change. Some seem to be afraid to admit their change of hearts but even on TV, I have seen Democratic Party members (Jewish) who no longer can stand behind Schumer, Pelosi, and the squad and their hate.

Maybe we have to thank the squad for showing what the Democratic Party is about and I* believe from what I have been hearing lately, that more Jews will vote for Trump. Maybe not all will do so because they agree with everything, but many can no longer stand behind the Democratic Party that is overflowing of Anti-Semitism.
I am one extremist liberal who is a Democrat and am Jewish. I will probably vote for Trump in 2020. It is not so much that the Squadron exists; it's that they are not being marginalized. I do not care that the House has not formally censured them. Their committee assignments, especially Omar's assignment to foreign affairs speaks volumes. It demonstrates what a Democrat foreign policy would look like these days.
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Old 08-23-2019, 03:17 AM
 
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I am one extremist liberal who is a Democrat and am Jewish. I will probably vote for Trump in 2020. It is not so much that the Squadron exists; it's that they are not being marginalized. I do not care that the House has not formally censured them. Their committee assignments, especially Omar's assignment to foreign affairs speaks volumes. It demonstrates what a Democrat foreign policy would look like these days.
Apparently to me, you're putting Israel's needs over America's needs first...so Trump was right about what he said about your loyalty.....hate to see that.
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Old 08-23-2019, 05:46 AM
 
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I am one extremist liberal who is a Democrat and am Jewish. I will probably vote for Trump in 2020. It is not so much that the Squadron exists; it's that they are not being marginalized. I do not care that the House has not formally censured them. Their committee assignments, especially Omar's assignment to foreign affairs speaks volumes. It demonstrates what a Democrat foreign policy would look like these days.
Ah, so if any of the 400+ Reps offends thee (they are The People Choice), then you are going to modify your entire worldview and outlook due to that......

That's fantastic.

It's as if many don't understand the House of Representatives. Your reaction, if any, should be to donate to their opponents in the next (soon) election. They come and go and they are just part of a large and temp. committee.

But, hey...as we speak Trumps DOJ sent out White Supremacy links to JEWISH IMMIGRATION JUDGES calling them nasty names. Yet that doesn't concern you as much?

Think!
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Old 08-23-2019, 05:55 AM
 
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I am one extremist liberal who is a Democrat and am Jewish. I will probably vote for Trump in 2020. It is not so much that the Squadron exists; it's that they are not being marginalized. I do not care that the House has not formally censured them. Their committee assignments, especially Omar's assignment to foreign affairs speaks volumes. It demonstrates what a Democrat foreign policy would look like these days.
Absolutely. That the Dems were willing to put her on the foreign affairs committee speaks volumes. It says they do not disagree with her adamantly anti-Israel stance and her support of the anti-Semitic BDS movement. Another sign: The way she attacked the Jewish witness giving testimony, the day after her anti-Jew remarks, was stomach-turning. That the Dems allowed her to question the Jew sent a loud message: we support Omar.

If Dems win the election, they will mentally divide America's Jews into two camps: "bad Jews" who support Israel, and "good Jews" who don't. I myself have repeatedly been called a "bad Jew" because I refuse to side with the Palestinians (who elected HAMAS).
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Old 08-23-2019, 06:00 AM
 
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Ah, so if any of the 400+ Reps offends thee (they are The People Choice), then you are going to modify your entire worldview and outlook due to that......

That's fantastic.

It's as if many don't understand the House of Representatives. Your reaction, if any, should be to donate to their opponents in the next (soon) election. They come and go and they are just part of a large and temp. committee.

But, hey...as we speak Trumps DOJ sent out White Supremacy links to JEWISH IMMIGRATION JUDGES calling them nasty names. Yet that doesn't concern you as much?

Think!
Did you not read what JBG just wrote?! He said it wasn't these couole of anti-Isrsel Dems who are turning him away, but the response by the Dem House to their hateful remarks. Omar should NOT have been approved to question the "Jew witness" (that's how she saw him) the very day after she claimed Jewish money was bribing Congress.
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Old 08-23-2019, 06:23 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Did you not read what JBG just wrote?! He said it wasn't these couole of anti-Isrsel Dems who are turning him away, but the response by the Dem House to their hateful remarks. Omar should NOT have been approved to question the "Jew witness" (that's how she saw him) the very day after she claimed Jewish money was bribing Congress.
That poster may be one of the 11% of Jews who voted Republican in 2018 - fewer than voted for Trump in 2016. The Jewish vote is Democratic and will stay that way. As has been said many times, Omar is no more the Democratic party than Roy Moore or King are the Republican party. Trump is the Republican party and Jews know what he is.
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Old 08-23-2019, 06:56 AM
 
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That poster may be one of the 11% of Jews who voted Republican in 2018 - fewer than voted for Trump in 2016. The Jewish vote is Democratic and will stay that way. As has been said many times, Omar is no more the Democratic party than Roy Moore or King are the Republican party. Trump is the Republican party and Jews know what he is.
We'll see. I've spoken to many Jews who are appalled by the way the Democrats are siding with the pro-Palestinian, pro BDS Congresswomen and fear that there is more to come should a D president win. They have said they will vote for Trump in 2020.

As far as your 11% of Jews stat, the House swings to the other side in mid-terms. (Remember the shellacking they R's gave Obama in 2010?) I myself did not vote for the R Congressman in 2018. (Surprised, huh?)
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Old 08-23-2019, 07:13 AM
 
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I am one extremist liberal who is a Democrat and am Jewish. I will probably vote for Trump in 2020. It is not so much that the Squadron exists; it's that they are not being marginalized. I do not care that the House has not formally censured them. Their committee assignments, especially Omar's assignment to foreign affairs speaks volumes. It demonstrates what a Democrat foreign policy would look like these days.
Apparently to me, you're putting Israel's needs over America's needs first...so Trump was right about what he said about your loyalty.....hate to see that.
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I am one extremist liberal who is a Democrat and am Jewish. I will probably vote for Trump in 2020. It is not so much that the Squadron exists; it's that they are not being marginalized. I do not care that the House has not formally censured them. Their committee assignments, especially Omar's assignment to foreign affairs speaks volumes. It demonstrates what a Democrat foreign policy would look like these days.
Ah, so if any of the 400+ Reps offends thee (they are The People Choice), then you are going to modify your entire worldview and outlook due to that......
I am responding to both your posts. The committee assignments are not trivial. At the working level committees both craft legislation and conduct investigations, including cross-examination of witnesses. Prior to the 1973 War, the Democratic Party was considered pro-Israel, and the Republican Party anti-Israel. In 1973, over the nearly unanimous opposition of his administration, Nixon ordered Israel to be re-armed to replace the wartime losses of weapons. Of course, that was after that genius Kissinger more or less directed Israel to stand down from a pre-emptive attack when the planned-on Arab attack was in the works. Over the years since then, support of Israel has largely been bipartisan. More recently, the Democratic Party, starting with the end of the Clinton Administration and continuing full force into the Obama years, has moved to put "daylight" between the U.S. and Israel. The support of Israel is natural, since Israel, alone among the region, supports gay rights, female rights and imperfect electoral democracy.

Omar's placement on the Foreign Affairs Committee signals a further shift toward a robust anti-Israel policy. I would like Pelosi to explain that to the LGBTQ crowd and females. I am a loyal American who supports American values; not some pastiche of "diverse" values that in the end hate America.
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Old 08-23-2019, 07:50 AM
 
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I am responding to both your posts. The committee assignments are not trivial. At the working level committees both craft legislation and conduct investigations, including cross-examination of witnesses. Prior to the 1973 War, the Democratic Party was considered pro-Israel, and the Republican Party anti-Israel. In 1973, over the nearly unanimous opposition of his administration, Nixon ordered Israel to be re-armed to replace the wartime losses of weapons. Of course, that was after that genius Kissinger more or less directed Israel to stand down from a pre-emptive attack when the planned-on Arab attack was in the works. Over the years since then, support of Israel has largely been bipartisan. More recently, the Democratic Party, starting with the end of the Clinton Administration and continuing full force into the Obama years, has moved to put "daylight" between the U.S. and Israel. The support of Israel is natural, since Israel, alone among the region, supports gay rights, female rights and imperfect electoral democracy.

Omar's placement on the Foreign Affairs Committee signals a further shift toward a robust anti-Israel policy. I would like Pelosi to explain that to the LGBTQ crowd and females. I am a loyal American who supports American values; not some pastiche of "diverse" values that in the end hate America.
A representative freshman at that has very little power.

An incompetent POTUS can set us back decades.

Trump's strategy to elevate to prominence these freshman reps has worked on you.
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